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Ruhskins 09-18-2009, 09:52 AM Took awhile for the Pats to get going last week vs a lowly Buffalo team that i thought would fold by halftime. Plus the pats LB is hurt so thats a major blow. So IMO an upset could be in the making if BB cant make Sanchez look like a rook. that and if the Jets can get to brady.
Good points. The Pats defense is a bit suspect, but if anyone can pull anything it would be Darth Hoody. I'm sure he has turned Rex Ryan's words into some crazy motivation cause for the team (which in my opinion all of this was media hyping something minor). Maybe we will see a high scoring game where the Pats somehow pull it at the end.
MonkFan4Life 09-18-2009, 10:32 AM Speaking of Rex Ryans words. How 'bout that Mark Sanchez ?!?!?!?!?! 270 yards huh ?
Eknox 09-18-2009, 12:46 PM I hear he's a great kid, don't want him as the QB for our Washington Redskins. Let's stop the QB talk and if everyone did there job we would have won..It's a team sport so let's take the wins as a team and losses as a team..
WaldSkins 09-18-2009, 01:05 PM I hear he's a great kid, don't want him as the QB for our Washington Redskins. Let's stop the QB talk and if everyone did there job we would have won..It's a team sport so let's take the wins as a team and losses as a team..
So carolina's problems aren't Jake Delholmes fault. Must of been DeAngello Williams and Julius Peppers fault for the 4 interceptions and a fumble.
MonkFan4Life 09-18-2009, 01:21 PM I hear he's a great kid, don't want him as the QB for our Washington Redskins. Let's stop the QB talk and if everyone did there job we would have won..It's a team sport so let's take the wins as a team and losses as a team..
You know what you're right. If everone did their job then they would've won. If everyone did their job then they would've won a lot of games that they should've won easily. It's just that we are asking everyone BUT Jason Campbell to do their job. Because of his efficiencies everone else has to play damn near perfect. When Moss runs a post route Jason throws a fly. When Kelly ran that beautiful route against Pittsburgh he's running across the field and where did Jason throw it ? Straight. But the deep ball is his best right ? When receivers run slants or drags or crossing routes he doesn't throw to them he usually throws behind them. He doesn't beat the DB by throwing the ball to the SPOT that the receiver is going to end up but to the area near where the receiver will be but he has to wait for him to get there, therefore giving a guy time to recover. I'm sorry bro, it's all about the JC. He's been playing in this league for too long to get passes on the rookie mistakes that he still makes. Cry about the O-Line all day but we can see that they really aren't the problem. It's him. Point Blank. This team is missing one thing to put them over the hump and until THAT part of this team is fixed we'll still be a middle of the pack coulda shoulda woulda type team.
Ruhskins 09-18-2009, 01:30 PM You know what you're right. If everone did their job then they would've won. If everyone did their job then they would've won a lot of games that they should've won easily. It's just that we are asking everyone BUT Jason Campbell to do their job. Because of his efficiencies everone else has to play damn near perfect. When Moss runs a post route Jason throws a fly. When Kelly ran that beautiful route against Pittsburgh he's running across the field and where did Jason throw it ? Straight. But the deep ball is his best right ? When receivers run slants or drags or crossing routes he doesn't throw to them he usually throws behind them. He doesn't beat the DB by throwing the ball to the SPOT that the receiver is going to end up but to the area near where the receiver will be but he has to wait for him to get there, therefore giving a guy time to recover. I'm sorry bro, it's all about the JC. He's been playing in this league for too long to get passes on the rookie mistakes that he still makes. Cry about the O-Line all day but we can see that they really aren't the problem. It's him. Point Blank. This team is missing one thing to put them over the hump and until THAT part of this team is fixed we'll still be a middle of the pack coulda shoulda woulda type team.
I would say that it is not all about JC, but it is about this team not having a playmaker. We don't have an offensive player that makes others around him better. That's plain and simple. You can typically get by in this league with an average QB or RB or WR as long as you have a playmaker or two that can change the outcome of the game.
Let's take Minny for example...they've had average/pedestrian QB play, average WRs, but they have a playmaker in Adrian Peterson and their defense. In our team, these would be the candidates to be playmakers: our defense, clinton portis, santana moss, and maybe cooley...unfortunately none of those players/units are considered playmakers.
MonkFan4Life 09-18-2009, 01:44 PM They aren't. The thing is that this team has enough talent to win games. A lot of them. The man simply cannot take the burden off of anyone. That's my problem. During the offseason we were told how much more of a handle he had on this offense and it's clear that he doesn't. Earlier in this thread someons said that the audible to the run was a good call and that it was Thomas' fault. Really ? This is what I'm talking about. he makes a mistak and instead of blaming him we have to find someone else to blame. When he threw that pick after he was clearly past the ling of scrimmage we blame Moss for not comming back to the ball. Maybe it's because Jason was one step from the sideline about 3 yards past the line of scrimmage. The camera focused on Jasons face after the Skins broke the huddle up until the ball was snapped. They were in a shotgun and do you want to know how much time Jason took out to scan the defense JUST IN CASE he had to make and adjustment ? Not one second. He all of a sudden can run the offense when the game is over, what happens to the other 3 1/4 quarters of play ? Clinton put up 1,400 or so yards last year but he can't do it all by himself. You QB makes your receivers better than they are, not the other way around. When there are 8 men in the box Mr. Deep Ball should be exploiting that. When team show blitz he doesn't change a thing. EVER. If you play Madden, and yes it's that simple, you adjust to what the defense shows you.
Njall 09-18-2009, 03:26 PM Ha. I'm a Gator through and through (see my signature), so anything I say will come off as pretty biased. I will say that one Tim Tebow has the intangibles of about a thousand Campbell's.
I'm a Campbell supporter, and I hope he shows this season that he is our solution. If he doesn't however, I would not be opposed to Gruden/Tebow one bit (Gruden has a giant man-crush on him and I bet he'll try to draft him for whatever team he ends up coaching).
Let's face it folks, if Campbell flops so do the Skins, and he and Zorn are both gone. We're an aging team at some pretty important positions. If they both go, we'll be in rebuilding mode for sure. It wouldn't be a bad thing IMO to bring in the best college football player of all team to help us.
I agree with everything yo just said . Outside Campbell and giving him a chance the guy is done and Zorn is also.
This team needs fire and a tough coach. Gruden will bring it to Skin's especially in the NFC East.
Njall 09-18-2009, 03:28 PM I would say that it is not all about JC, but it is about this team not having a playmaker. We don't have an offensive player that makes others around him better. That's plain and simple. You can typically get by in this league with an average QB or RB or WR as long as you have a playmaker or two that can change the outcome of the game.
Let's take Minny for example...they've had average/pedestrian QB play, average WRs, but they have a playmaker in Adrian Peterson and their defense. In our team, these would be the candidates to be playmakers: our defense, clinton portis, santana moss, and maybe cooley...unfortunately none of those players/units are considered playmakers.
Ok . Why didn't Broncos take Campbell ? They have playmakers great receivers . but picked Orton instead.
Why did Skin's go after Sanchez and Cutler?
firstdown 09-18-2009, 03:30 PM I don't watch much college ball but caught the Miami game and mane that guy they have playing QB was pretty impressive. If I heard right this is his first year starting but he looked prety poised to me.
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