Portis and Cooley Calling Out an Offensive Teammate?

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I definitely remember him doing it (giving up on a play) on "one" of Collins picks in the playopffs game against Seattle.

Speaking of this game. This is the last time I saw Landry play lights out.

I still haven't forgiven Moss for that. It was the playoffs, for gosh sake. And that pick was returned for the score that sealed the game.

I was actually thinking that the other day. We went downhill from there for Danny's knee jerk reaction. Look at San Diegos offense under him.

You mean the SD Chargers that were 8-8 last year, and had one of the worst defenses and whose offense played 6 games against 3 teams whose defenses ranked in the bottom 10 last year. The ones who under Marty were 14-2, and now nearly lost to Oakland. Yeah, lets here it for Norv.

I was actually thinking that the other day. We went downhill from there for Danny's knee jerk reaction. Look at San Diegos offense under him.

You mean the SD Chargers that were 8-8 last year, and had one of the worst defenses and whose offense played 6 games against 3 teams whose defenses ranked in the bottom 10 last year. The ones who under Marty were 14-2, and now nearly lost to Oakland. Yeah, lets here it for Norv. I don't think SD fans would be all that sad if Norv were to leave (don't know that just sorta believe they gotta be tired of him by now).

I'm not questioning Moss's ability, just his attitude. Someone has to step up. What if he goes down? Who takes his position?


Agreed. Moss has made great play for us. But he has to do that allof the time. Even if he can't make plays all the time. He still has to keep his mind in the game. One that play I woulnd't fault him totally. But in football. I fyou can't catch the ball. You make sure no one else does. If he had a made a strogner play on the ball or even touched dude he wouldn't have gotten his feet down. because he parely did. It was a good defenseive play. But like I said this isn't the first time I've seen Moss do this. I have seen him pout on the field. ON the post game interview. He was in the locker room with his head down. ARE and Cooley had career high catches last year. Moss didn't have a very productive year and ARE had a good game besides that bone head play at the beginning of the game.

I love Moss. But he does act like a diva sometimes and as the number 1 receiver. You can't take plays off. I htink his skill is unquestionable. But his mental game is brittle. I honestly think Webster was messing with his head and took him out the game. Before and after the fight.

I just got through the tape and can safely tell you that you've jumped to a lot of unfounded conclusions based around a single unfounded premise (i.e. Campbell had a terrible game, and subsequent ad homenim attacks).

Good point. Dont make analysis on a game when you only saw it once and are extremely upset. You have to go back and watch the game again. Tivo and DVR will change your mind on a few things when you look at the game again. Somethign I noticed was that on that play when Campbell fumbled. He should have step up and was trying to when the ball got stripped. But I also saw Samuels getting used by a simple shoulder shake move. It was like DE literally shook him off. lol. Campbell needs to step up quicker tho.

But back to what I was saying earlier. Tivo and DVR are your friend when it comes to analyzing a game after watching it the first time

The Giants gamble was: if they took away Moss with just one guy (Webster), they could use a safety on Kelly and prevent him from making a play beyond 15 yards. But where they went wrong is that they couldn't keep Randle El from beating them, so the fact that they took away Kelly became irrelevant in the grand scheme.

You mean the SD Chargers that were 8-8 last year, and had one of the worst defenses and whose offense played 6 games against 3 teams whose defenses ranked in the bottom 10 last year. The ones who under Marty were 14-2, and now nearly lost to Oakland. Yeah, lets here it for Norv.


Your right. Our offense is way better than San Diegos. They were 10th in the league on a down year. We were ranked 20th and could hardly score. I am only talking about offense. Norv specialty is offense not defense. You can get a defensive coordinator. OH we had Marty too. Thanks for making my point again.

We can never have things straight across the board. Player, Coaches, FO.

One or two or all are always off somehow.

Putting myself in Moss's shoes:

I'm running a route. The QB is running towards the line of scrimmage and won't throw the ball before crossing the line of scrimmage. I
1) Run towards the line of scrimmage to give him a target to throw to, or
2) Cut off my run hoping to keep the defenders out of the area where the QB will run.

I didn't record the game, so can someone who did tell me if this is a possible scenario?

Your right. Our offense is way better than San Diegos. They were 10th in the league on a down year. We were ranked 20th and could hardly score. I am only talking about offense. Norv specialty is offense not defense. You can get a defensive coordinator. OH we had Marty too. Thanks for making my point again.

We can never have things straight across the board. Player, Coaches, FO.

One or two or all are always off somehow.

But you are comparing an offense that was playing against three of the worst defenses in the league. Lets see how ours does when we play the AFC West. It may not be stellar, but San Diego's was again an 8-8 team in the AFC West.

Hell Yeah!!!!!! CP and Cooley are the only Pro Bowler caliber guys we have on offense and are always true gamers since day one. Fellas better listen to them too!!! If this crap keeps up we will lose both next time they are up for contract renewal. At some point soon CP and CC are going to want to go out with a ring. Just think Barry Sanders. I agree put in Marko in for Moss more often, etc.