American Indians look to high court

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Daseal
09-16-2009, 06:40 PM
Plaschke, Do the right thing and get a toupee.

KLHJ2
09-18-2009, 01:17 AM
So why is it that Florida State can have a Seminole?

Why can a chewing tobacco company use this?

http://www.smokersoutletonline.com/images/Image013%20(2).jpg

Did every other team ask if it was ok to use the likeness of types of people before they made their logos?

Did any of the teams that were named after animals petition PETA to make sure that it was OK to use animal likeness in Logos? The answer is no because it is absurd to do so.

If any Native American wants to name their casino the "Pale Face Palace" It would not bother me one bit. The truth is that they are just logos and nicknames that were created to provide an identity and instill a minute amount of fear into the opposition while providing pride for the teams followers. In no way is it degrading a people.

I have a 100% Native American Aunt who is from Michigan and married into our family decades ago. My grandmother is 50% Cherokee. Both of them are Redskin fans. This fight has no merrit in my mind.

Coff
09-18-2009, 01:44 AM
Probably the greatest victory of the PC crowd. Or worst, depending on how you look at it.

I concur with irish that one day, hopefully not in my lifetime, the nickname will be changed.

Really? Was it a victory by the "PC crowd" or simply a conscientious and responsible decision by the owners of the team? And what exactly is the perspective of those who find the changing of the name bullets as the "worst" victory of the "PC crowd"?? I'm wracking my brain here trying to figure out what the negatives would be for a professional sports team residing in a urban center plagued with gun violence to change its name to something that doesn't invoke guns and violence, but I'm afraid I'm drawing a blank.

Daseal
09-18-2009, 01:45 AM
Because then they get a terrible name like the wizards.

wilsowilso
09-18-2009, 02:41 AM
With regards to the Bullets changing their name I was under the impression that the owner decided to change the name after his good friend who just happened to be the Prime Minister of Israel got murdered. He alone decided that he didn't want the team name to have any connection to gun violence.

Ruhskins
09-18-2009, 11:02 AM
With regards to the Bullets changing their name I was under the impression that the owner decided to change the name after his good friend who just happened to be the Prime Minister of Israel got murdered. He alone decided that he didn't want the team name to have any connection to gun violence.

Well that was sort of the final straw that led to his decision...however, Pollin felt the name Bullets had acquired violent overtones.

ArtMonkDrillz
09-18-2009, 11:26 AM
I think the Patriots and the Cowboys should be forced to change their respective names because they glorify the very people who stole land from the Native Americans. Hell, you could probably also include the Vikings in that group.

Spence
09-18-2009, 11:37 AM
I'm a huge hoops fan and I've always loved the name Bullets. I wish they would change the name back to it. The Baltimore Bullets made sense, due to the munitions factories put there to ship supplies to our troops in Europe. Washington Bullets doesn't make as much sense, but it's still a cool name and Wizards is just an awful name. I'd have preferred Sea Dogs.

The Redskins name should go. Change it to the Warlords. Washington Warlords has got a ring to it and some historical context, due to the great presidents and generals who have led wars from this city where I'm typing.

The fact that some other offensive Amerindian names and images are still being used is not relevant. The right thing should be done because it is the right thing to do. Let others be wrong.

Spence
09-18-2009, 11:39 AM
I think the Patriots and the Cowboys should be forced to change their respective names because they glorify the very people who stole land from the Native Americans. Hell, you could probably also include the Vikings in that group.I think the federal and state governments had done whatever they wanted to do to the Amerindians before the massive immigration from Scandinavia to the upper Midwest took place.

Cowboys and Patriots aren't names that offend anyone.

cdskins26
09-18-2009, 11:43 AM
Fine. If this happens then all ethnic teams should go. Well then goodbye: redskins vikings, cowboys, buccaneers, patriots, chiefs, indians, braves, pirates, canadians, blackhawks, canucks, fighting irish, seminoles, and so on...

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