No Huddle?

Campbell looks much more comfortable in that shotgun, no-huddle, no time to think mode. But I'm not sure that's the right answer for the majority of the game

Personally, I think they should start off in it or at least bring it out early in the game. Take a series to set the tempo, use the base offense for the majority of the game but, at random moments, switch into no huddle. Campbell performs well in it and it might help to loosen up the defenses.

I like Zorn, I want him to succeed, but this, IMHO, seems to me to be a situation where the coach wants to succeed his way as opposed to using the talent at hand finding a way for it to succeed.

Personally, I think they should start off in it or at least bring it out early in the game. Take a series to set the tempo, use the base offense for the majority of the game but, at random moments, switch into no huddle. Campbell performs well in it and it might help to loosen up the defenses.

I like Zorn, I want him to succeed, but this, IMHO, seems to me to be a situation where the coach wants to succeed his way as opposed to using the talent at hand finding a way for it to succeed.

Definitely agree with you're saying about Zorn. As for Campbell, sometimes he reminds me of Arthur Rhodes.

Say what??

So back in the early 90's Arthur Rhodes was supposed to be the man for the Orioles. Big, powerful lefty starter. Can't miss. But he was mediocre year after year.

Until they put him in middle relief and he started to shine (relatively speaking). And he was asked "Why are you having success now when you were struggling as a starter"

And his answer, which I suppose was expected because I think the O's had run some psych tests on him and determined he was better suited for middle relief was (to paraphrase) "When I'm starting, I know that four out of five days I'm sitting on the bench in the dugout, thinking and worrying about my next start. As a middle reliever, there's no time to think. I can be called on at any time and I just have to go out there and pitch."

Sometimes I feel like that's what's going through Campbell's mind. When he has time to sit and go through his projections he has too much time to think. But if he has to act quickly then he's better off.

Same basic question, but about the shotgun. Zorn's lack of use of it is in his own words due to the timing of the run game. I think it is supremely obvious that the shotgun and JC work well together. With that said, if Zorn wants to be a "genius" let him develop a shotgun formation that perfects the west coast run game. It's gotta be do-able, but I would love to see Jason run every play (pass or run) out of the shotgun. He just seems comfortable with it.

Personally, I think they should start off in it or at least bring it out early in the game. Take a series to set the tempo, use the base offense for the majority of the game but, at random moments, switch into no huddle. Campbell performs well in it and it might help to loosen up the defenses.

I like Zorn, I want him to succeed, but this, IMHO, seems to me to be a situation where the coach wants to succeed his way as opposed to using the talent at hand finding a way for it to succeed.When the Redskins can run the ball for 4-5 yards a pop, Zorn's offense works fantastic. Combine a efficient running game and an efficient passing game that has the benefit of play action, and you have a low risk, ball control offense that eats the clock and ends every drive with points.

But we don't really play in an era where it's viable to expect to be able to run the football. For 6 games last season, we ran the ball on everyone we played and were pretty much an unstoppable offense. Portis tore his MCL and while he tried to play through it, the inability to run on great teams just put the passing offense in horrendous situaitions.

Having an offense that tries to establish the run is still viable, but knowing when you just aren't going to be able to run is just as important. Modern defenses can completely take away a running back if they want to, so you have to be able to take the exact same personnel and have a bunch of passing plays that can break down undermanned coverages.

This year, the Redskins are not undermanned on offense, so it's probably time to "open it up" so to speak.

Our punter has as many TD's as our entire offense has this season. Why not try it here and there?

Definitely agree with you're saying about Zorn. As for Campbell, sometimes he reminds me of Arthur Rhodes.

Say what??

So back in the early 90's Arthur Rhodes was supposed to be the man for the Orioles. Big, powerful lefty starter. Can't miss. But he was mediocre year after year.

Until they put him in middle relief and he started to shine (relatively speaking). And he was asked "Why are you having success now when you were struggling as a starter"

And his answer, which I suppose was expected because I think the O's had run some psych tests on him and determined he was better suited for middle relief was (to paraphrase) "When I'm starting, I know that four out of five days I'm sitting on the bench in the dugout, thinking and worrying about my next start. As a middle reliever, there's no time to think. I can be called on at any time and I just have to go out there and pitch."

Sometimes I feel like that's what's going through Campbell's mind. When he has time to sit and go through his projections he has too much time to think. But if he has to act quickly then he's better off.I'll go one step further. Without using the words rhythm or moxy, if we keep limiting him to fewer than 40 attempts in a game, you've essentially sealed his fate as quarterback of the Redskins. Even when he plays well, none of his critics will see it unless you really make it obvious that Jason Campbell is the WHOLE offense, and Portis just plays in it.

How will Portis handle a diminished role? I don't care. He can go elsewhere if he doesn't want to be part of the Redskins passing revolution.

A no-huddle offense is just a means to an end of getting Jason Campbell to attempt enough passes to make him a consistent 300 yard passer.

I pulled the number 7.2 out of thin air for a ypa figure given relevant improvement for Campbell (he was 8.1 against a strong defense on Sunday). At 7.2 ypa, he needs to attempt 42 passes to throw for 300 yards.

This 20 passes in 4 quarters of work crap isn't going to work. I know the defense takes forever to get a stop, but the offense takes 4 game clock minutes to do 7 play drives. Seriously, throw some passes.

No huddle, shotgun, -- do something. I believe it's time for Zorn to take a page from the history of Joe Gibbs and start thinking about the players he has, versus the system he really wants.

He did take history from Gibbs and that why we keep having to call timeouts to get the plays. LOL

I've worn the letters off of S H O T G U N on my keyboard the last few days because it's clear that running a higher percentage of our offense from that formation is vital to it's success. As a few people have said in this thread. Some coaches want things to be done their way and some coaches are willing to adapt to their talent. My way coaches are usually looking for work in January.

Our punter has as many TD's as our entire offense has this season. Why not try it here and there?

Or let the punter play more.