play calling???

Wow...

CP lost a step? Man, that guy exploded through that hole. You guys need to see it again, because he didn't look slow to me. It looked like to me you had one guy diving after him after he shot through the hole, and the 2 DB's made a better angle to knock him out of bounds.

Let's just take a look shall we?

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Now watch how the DB's take a great angle on Portis.. Portis has always been known for his great vision, and ableness of following his blockers. He has the best vision in the NFL as a RB.

Now.. This

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY2QxgPoLuI&feature=fvw"] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6XncGT7J8Y)

Now in this video you see the safety #23 take the worse angle in football. I've seen 10 year old pee wee players take a better angle then that, and Portis had about 10 yards of sideline to make a better stretch, not the 3 yards in the first video on the short side of the field. Give the guy another 1- yards and he prolly catches Portis... Everyone who know the Redskins knows the Portis has never had breakaway speed. He's always been built for quick bursts and hitting the holes and producing long drives with the occasional big one.

All you people looking ot point a finger at why we lost on Sunday need to get over it. We were not going to go 16-0 this year, and we are prolly not going to go even 11-5. We are going to lose, and usually the losing team looks the worse out of the 2 teams. We just happen to be that team this week, and in all honesty.. I didn't think the game was that bad. We lost by 6 points against a team that won the SB 2 years ago?

In the first video it took CP approx 6 seconds to travel 30 yards. In the second it only took him 4 seconds to travel 30 yards. There are many variables not considered such as the sync of the videos to real time, the fact that Clinton was possibly running more stream line in the first one, and him slowing down for contact in the second. The fact of the matter is that 2 seconds is a long time when you are sprinting. While Portis might not exactly be required to retire any time soon, it appears that he is a tad bit slower than he used to be.

I don't think CP is in decline. He just shouldn't be the focus of the offense anymore. The QB should be. CP is not a game breaker and it's just time for a transition of a running team to a passing team. But the coach is either too stupid to realize it or he's too stubborn. What really pissed me off was watching the Balt. game. Watching Cam Cameron and Harbaugh just hand over the offense to a 2nd year QB from freakin Delaware and let him sling it all over the field. I don't think Balt. has better wr's than we do. My patience w/ Zorn's playcalling is over with, he appears to be in over his head and it's time to be on the Shanahan watch.

Well, I take issue with your first statement because it's bound to happen to every player. I guess the only point to argue is to what degree his decline is in.

At times, Zorn's in-game performance falls apart when things don't go according to plan. Even though the Giants were stuffing up the running lanes, it's as if he locks up, doesn't know how to respond, and the only thing he can think of is to keep feeding the ball to Portis because he figures something will open up sooner or later. As a playcaller, he's still relatively new at this.

If it's not meant to be for Zorn in Washington, Shanahan would be my first choice.

I wanted to rip the playcalling as well. Whether we like, Zorn likes it, Danny likes it, Jason Campbell is our QB. I just dont see them allowing him to run the supposed west coast offense. They are not allowing him to really throw the ball down field very much, and seems like they are not scheming very well. Giants were going to stop the run, left a lot of one on one with the receivers, I was surprised not to see more 3 or 4 WR sets spreading out the defense and running from that and throwing from it. It just doesn't make sense. Kelly, moss, thomas, davis, were all invisible in the passing game. that is ridiculous. If your getting stuffed every time you touch the ball, why not spread em out and get into some checks at the line. Zorn just doesn't seem to have the confidense in Campbell in my opinion. And if thats the case, he may as well get him shit packed up and start heading to the door.

I wanted to rip the playcalling as well. Whether we like, Zorn likes it, Danny likes it, Jason Campbell is our QB. I just dont see them allowing him to run the supposed west coast offense. They are not allowing him to really throw the ball down field very much, and seems like they are not scheming very well. Giants were going to stop the run, left a lot of one on one with the receivers, I was surprised not to see more 3 or 4 WR sets spreading out the defense and running from that and throwing from it. It just doesn't make sense. Kelly, moss, thomas, davis, were all invisible in the passing game. that is ridiculous. If your getting stuffed every time you touch the ball, why not spread em out and get into some checks at the line. Zorn just doesn't seem to have the confidense in Campbell in my opinion. And if thats the case, he may as well get him shit packed up and start heading to the door.

I don't think it's a Campbell confidence problem. It's a Zorn stubbornness 'I want what I want the way I want it' problem.

Well, I take issue with your first statement because it's bound to happen to every player. I guess the only point to argue is to what degree his decline is in.

At times, Zorn's in-game performance falls apart when things don't go according to plan. Even though the Giants were stuffing up the running lanes, it's as if he locks up, doesn't know how to respond, and the only thing he can think of is to keep feeding the ball to Portis because he figures something will open up sooner or later. As a playcaller, he's still relatively new at this.

If it's not meant to be for Zorn in Washington, Shanahan would be my first choice.

CP is still avery effective back and good enough to start. But he's simply not a game breaker like AP is. Or even Steven Jackson.

If an NFL HC can't make adjustments on the fly then it's time to go. Over the last half of last year and the 1st game of this year he simply looks in over his head. NY had injuries in the secondary and he didn't try and exploit that. Plus the blown timeouts. That is piss poor coaching. If I were Snyder I'd have Shanahan on speed dial. We wouldn't even have to change the offense either.

Listening to the replay of the Zorn show on 980 (ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now (http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=428&f=33690)) earlier today, yikes.

At the 2:53 mark he said, 'We were down 17 points, I wasn't panicking, I was running our plan... I could have abandoned the run and threw the ball but I felt we were in the game, totally'. What game was he at?

At the 3:50 mark when pressed on the pass/run balance in light of the score he said, 'On the sideline I'm looking for what runs are good.. I'm trying to establish we can be a running team, I'm looking for balance.' This speaks to his stubbornness and lack of game awareness. You've got to adjust and adapt to the situation.

Listening to the replay of the Zorn show on 980 (ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now (http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=428&f=33690)) earlier today, yikes.

At the 2:53 mark he said, 'We were down 17 points, I wasn't panicking, I was running our plan... I could have abandoned the run and threw the ball but I felt we were in the game, totally'. What game was he at?

At the 3:50 mark when pressed on the pass/run balance in light of the score he said, 'On the sideline I'm looking for what runs are good.. I'm trying to establish we can be a running team, I'm looking for balance.' This speaks to his stubbornness and lack of game awareness. You've got to adjust and adapt to the situation.I wonder if we didn't get the huge run from Portis on the first offensive play, if Zorn would have realized the run wasn't going to be there. I feel like Zorn, much like saden suggested, spent the rest of the game trying to figure out how he could get Portis into the secondary again, instead of figuring out how to get the ball in the end zone as quickly as possible.

I wonder if we didn't get the huge run from Portis on the first offensive play, if Zorn would have realized the run wasn't going to be there. I feel like Zorn, much like saden suggested, spent the rest of the game trying to figure out how he could get Portis into the secondary again, instead of figuring out how to get the ball in the end zone as quickly as possible.

Exactly! It was like finding a $20 somewhere on the street and you keep walking down that street, even if it's out of the way, hoping to find another $20.

Listening to the replay of the Zorn show on 980 (ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now (http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=428&f=33690)) earlier today, yikes.

At the 2:53 mark he said, 'We were down 17 points, I wasn't panicking, I was running our plan... I could have abandoned the run and threw the ball but I felt we were in the game, totally'. What game was he at?

At the 3:50 mark when pressed on the pass/run balance in light of the score he said, 'On the sideline I'm looking for what runs are good.. I'm trying to establish we can be a running team, I'm looking for balance.' This speaks to his stubbornness and lack of game awareness. You've got to adjust and adapt to the situation.

does zorn realize that you do whatever you need to do to score points? sometimes that means you have imbalance in your play calling. run or pass. he's such an idiot. he needs to be a qb coach and not a head coach/offensive coordinator.

Wow...

CP lost a step? Man, that guy exploded through that hole. You guys need to see it again, because he didn't look slow to me. It looked like to me you had one guy diving after him after he shot through the hole, and the 2 DB's made a better angle to knock him out of bounds.

After watching it a few more times, I get the same feeling. When he hits the hole there's a momentary burst, then no "second level". Maybe we're all spoiled watching Adrian Peterson, I don't know -- but every time I watch the clip I keep thinking "he's going to break this and score!" and then he looks like he's out of gas and gets tackled at the end.

I'm fully willing to say it's just perception, as I said, it's just how he looked to me.


All you people looking ot point a finger at why we lost on Sunday need to get over it. We were not going to go 16-0 this year, and we are prolly not going to go even 11-5. We are going to lose, and usually the losing team looks the worse out of the 2 teams. We just happen to be that team this week, and in all honesty.. I didn't think the game was that bad. We lost by 6 points against a team that won the SB 2 years ago?

That wasn't fingerpointing. If anything I was pointing out how much we overrely on CP to win games and what toll that may be taking on him.