Positives of this Game

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GTripp0012
09-14-2009, 08:13 PM
Gtrip.. No those aren't little things, but at the same time QBs in this league are judged on one thing. Winning. JC hasn't done that yet. And the team we must absolutly beat is the Giants. JC(as a starting QB) has not beaten the Giants once in the last 4 years. Todd Collins beat the Giants in 07 at the Meadow Lands. Jason hasn't showed me anything in the games we have played against NY to disprove that fact. How can we win the East, get to the playoffs, and win the SuperBowl without beating the Giants at least once? That is the goal here right? Win the NFC East and Win the Superbowl? Is there faith that JC can do that? That's why I am a fan of the Redskins. That is what we used to do alot. Now if we get to the playoffs it's as a Wild Card. I want to win again. Be feared. Not be afraid of NY because we can't beat them. He has time to win me back over. I'm just done defending him.Well, like I've pointed out, there were blemishes on Campbell's day, but nothing that happened while he had the ball would have necessarily prevented the team from winning. When Campbell didn't have the ball in his hands on Sunday, we were much, much worse off.

Quarterbacks aren't judged by winning any more than middle linebackers are. With that said, nothing will get the public's attention faster than a lot of Ws and few Ls.

GTripp0012
09-14-2009, 08:24 PM
It is just so hard to put your finger on what goes wrong for Jason. He is a very accurate passer, has a high completion percentage, great arm, and can tuck-and-run when he needs to. It just seems like he doesn't really attack the defense. He runs the play, but he doesn't go after the weaker defensive players.

For Jason to make the transition to franchise QB, and start winning games consistently, he needs to learn to find a defenses weakness, recognize it at the line of scrimmage, audible (if needed) and attack the weakness. Brady does it, Manning does it, Brees does it....

Maybe with a little more comfort in the system, and the next few weaker opponents, he can turn it on.The thing about Jason is, he doesn't need to do anything to become a franchise quarterback. He does a lot of things well and a few things not so well. The thing is, for this organization, having a franchise quarterback is simply empty rhetoric designed at dodging any actual problems with the franchise.

You can tell when an organization is serious about building through it's quarterback and when an organization is simply going through the motions. Guess which category we fall into?

The Washington Redskins will not have a franchise quarterback this year. They will not have one next year, or the year after, or the year after that. Had we traded for Jay Cutler, still no shot at a franchise quarterback. It's a byproduct of an organizational philosophy to "prove it" without any responsibility on it's own part to improve it's methodology.

The Redskins can win without a franchise quarterback, I think, but won't be able to sustain whatever they work towards anyway.

DBUCHANON101
09-14-2009, 08:30 PM
Well, like I've pointed out, there were blemishes on Campbell's day, but nothing that happened while he had the ball would have necessarily prevented the team from winning. When Campbell didn't have the ball in his hands on Sunday, we were much, much worse off.
Quarterbacks aren't judged by winning any more than middle linebackers are. With that said, nothing will get the public's attention faster than a lot of Ws and few Ls.

I agree, when the ball fell out of his hands and Osi was running down the sidelines for a TD it couldnt have been any worse.

GTripp0012
09-14-2009, 08:43 PM
I agree, when the ball fell out of his hands and Osi was running down the sidelines for a TD it couldnt have been any worse.LOL.

There's nothing to say that the same thing couldn't have happened to Portis. Campbell fumbled, but that's really the end of the play, from the quarterback's perspective, when assessing blame.

skins89moss
09-15-2009, 07:54 AM
No INJURIES!

Agreed this is a positive.

skins89moss
09-15-2009, 08:01 AM
[QUOTE=Gtothearry;588687]1. O-line played well
2. Several passes completed for 15+ yards
3. Receivers ran routes past the 1st down marker on 3rd downs.
(remember how many routes were ran last year a yard short of the 1st down)
4. The D-fense actually produced some to's.
5. There was actually pressure put on an opposing QB
6. The run was kept in check
7. Goal line stands
8. Suisham is 1-1
9. Offense produced points and did move the ball against a great D......(remember the offense should get better...were one year into this offense)
10. Zorn's play calling was better ( at least we aren't as predictable as we were last year)
11. Despite all that went wrong the players didn't give up and still had a chance towards the end.

Honestly, I was pissed off during the game as many of u all were im sure. However, once I reflected on the game I have a decent feel of where this team is headed. I really think by week 6 this team will be a good team and if we don't play down to our opponents level we should be in good shape. The only ? marks for me is dumb penalites which can be fixed and also our DB's---------(which cant be fixed).......[/QUOT

GOOD POST gtoTHEARRY

skins89moss
09-15-2009, 08:04 AM
I believe Chase Daniels could do a better job at QB! At least he scrambles and tries anyway he can to get that 1st down!

That comment is a Joke.

skins89moss
09-15-2009, 08:09 AM
It is just so hard to put your finger on what goes wrong for Jason. He is a very accurate passer, has a high completion percentage, great arm, and can tuck-and-run when he needs to. It just seems like he doesn't really attack the defense. He runs the play, but he doesn't go after the weaker defensive players.

For Jason to make the transition to franchise QB, and start winning games consistently, he needs to learn to find a defenses weakness, recognize it at the line of scrimmage, audible (if needed) and attack the weakness. Brady does it, Manning does it, Brees does it....

Maybe with a little more comfort in the system, and the next few weaker opponents, he can turn it on.

I think Jason is more concerned to not throw a pick which hinders him from attacking the defense. Great QB's ( Farve) are not afraid to take chances with the ball and just let it rip. I guess its easy said when the FO doesnt have confidence in you in the 1st place. Brett Farve has thrown more picks than anyothet QB in history. To be great you can't be afraid to fail. Jason trust in your arm and don't be afraid to make a mistake its going to happen if you play QB in the NFL. Just ask Jay Cutler and Jake Delhomme.

skins89moss
09-15-2009, 08:32 AM
The Positives of the game
1.The Redskins never quit
2. No major injuries.
3. The Defense had a goal line stand
4. London Fletcher has not slowed down yet.
5. ARE had his best game as a Redskins WR and may makean impact in the slot.
6. The Defense only surrendered 16 points to the G-mens offense.
7. The Defense forced 2 turnovers.
8. Cooley had a TD and was a factor in the passing game.
9. Special teams overall played well not given up a return for a TD or missed FG.
10. JC played well against a great pass rush and a average O-Line.
11. Albert H. had a nice game and he isn't in game shape yet. His presense will be felt this season.
12. Horton is not a 1 season wonder, the kid can play.
13. Orakpo got his feet wet and did not make any major mistakes.
14. Mcnabb may miss a few games.
15. This maybe our last game in giants stadium. New stadium next year our fortune will change.
16. Heyer played better this game in pass protection.
17. Rogers played the entire game, but he did drop a sure pick early in the 1st qt.

Coff
09-15-2009, 08:35 AM
The Positives of the game

17. Rogers played the entire game, but he did drop a sure pick early in the 1st qt.


I've come to grips with Rogers' ability to drop interceptions and instead to look at each dropped pick as a broken pass. So the way I see it is this: not ony did Rogers play the entire game, and do so fairly well, but he also broke up a pass in the first quarter.

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