Skinny Tee
09-14-2009, 01:37 AM
Lets do the math:
Giants scored 23 pts, the defense gave up 16 pts of those points and the offense gave up 7 pts. The offense scored 17 points.
If no offensive turnover the score would be 17-16 Skins.
If England won the battle for independence then we'd all be speaking with British accents.
GTripp0012
09-14-2009, 01:40 AM
I just don't understand your thinking. Improvements need to be made across the board. Defense and offense. But to say defense lost this game is ridiculous.I'm not in disagreement with you on what's ailing the offense. I thought that was established.
The big problem with the defense is never, ever going to be any more evident than it was today. We had one three and out. Then the two turnover drives. THE GIANTS DID NOT PUT THEIR PUNTER ON THE FIELD UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF THE THIRD QUARTER.
We won't know for 5 weeks or so just how much of our defensive struggles today were because the Giants are a great passing team. Maybe none. Maybe a lot. But considering how thoroughly dominated we were through the air on defense, I don't see how anyone could not see the giant gaping hole on the team.
And no, the offense was not perfect. They made two costly errors, and couldn't open up any running lanes. But the passing game was the only thing that worked today.
53Fan
09-14-2009, 01:42 AM
If England won the battle for independence then we'd all be speaking with British accents.
'ello mate!
Ruhskins
09-14-2009, 01:44 AM
'ello mate!
What part of England is that accent from? Sydney or Melbourne? LOL.
GTripp0012
09-14-2009, 01:45 AM
Lets do the math:
Giants scored 23 pts, the defense gave up 16 pts of those points and the offense gave up 7 pts. The offense scored 17 points.
If no offensive turnover the score would be 17-16 Skins.So your argument is, "the defense sucks, but we should overcome them every time"?
Or you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Well, if all we did on offense is run Portis three times and punt, we might not have to worry about those damn turnovers. Unless we fumble.
saden1
09-14-2009, 01:55 AM
My argument is that the defense didn't suck as much as the offense. This loss cannot be blamed on the defense, certainly not more so than the offense.
GTripp0012
09-14-2009, 01:56 AM
My argument is that the defense didn't suck as much as the offense.Well, you're wrong.
saden1
09-14-2009, 01:57 AM
Well, you're wrong.
In these matters I am never wrong. Have you explored the possibility that you're wrong?
53Fan
09-14-2009, 01:58 AM
What part of England is that accent from? Sydney or Melbourne? LOL.
:laughing2 What can I say? It's late and I've just been through some emotional trauma. :(
GTripp0012
09-14-2009, 02:02 AM
In these matters I am never wrong. Have you explored the possibility that you're wrong?Yeah, but, it was kind of ridiculous and a complete waste of my time.
You kind of ran out of steam around the time you claimed that we got away from running the ball. The rest of the time, you've just been playing catch-up.
Theory: they stuck you with Rams-Seahawks out there.