can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

Bottomline guys, the Giants dominated us like usual they are a better team all around, we will win 7-8 games again and the GMEN will win the East again! And yes Zorn and Camp will be gone if we don't make the playoffs!!

those stats are not the whole story though. He had some boneheaded fucking plays.Well, yeah. He did.

That's not why we lost though.

Campbell threw for 8.11 YPA and 73% completion.

He also turned the ball over twice.

If you can't win with that kind of QB production, you're never going to win. If Zorn doesn't adopt a more pass-heavy offensive philosophy, it's hard to see them scoring more points then they did today.

I have to agree with you. It's time to become a more pass heavy offense.

Well, yeah. He did.

That's not why we lost though.

One play never ever loses a game. But the turnover that got returned for a TD is on JC. He needed to have two hands on the ball and step up in te pocket. That's on JC and that was the most crucial play of the game. Otherwise he threw the ball very very well and I think the offense will get better as the season goes on.

can we please begin to start the conversation the either cowher or shannahan will be here by our bye week. also which QB do we build around bradford, snead, tebow, or Mc Coy.


Just one game dude, we have a long way to go yet. Granted we didn't play all that well today, but you must realize we were playing a very good team on their home turf. The Giants are always tough on us up there. Things will get better as we go along.

One play never ever loses a game. But the turnover that got returned for a TD is on JC. He needed to have two hands on the ball and step up in te pocket. That's on JC and that was the most crucial play of the game. Otherwise he threw the ball very very well and I think the offense will get better as the season goes on.I agree. Samuels got beat, but Campbell never gave him a chance.

those stats are not the whole story though. He had some boneheaded fucking plays.

True but besides ARE he really didn't have any help either. Zorn's play calling sucked too run on 1st & 2nd down gain two yards and leave your QB with 3rd & long all game.

Campbell threw for 8.11 YPA and 73% completion.

He also turned the ball over twice.

If you can't win with that kind of QB production, you're never going to win. If Zorn doesn't adopt a more pass-heavy offensive philosophy, it's hard to see them scoring more points then they did today.

It's hard to win when the qb throws an interception putting the opposing team in great field position (eventually leading to a td) AND fumbles, which is returned for a td.

That's 14 out of 23 points that Campbell's mistakes directly can be blamed for. There's no excusing that.

Only negatives of JC this game: held the ball to long and poor pocket presence.
NYG are a Top 5 defense and they called a great defensive game.

It's hard to win when the qb throws an interception putting the opposing team in great field position (eventually leading to a td) AND fumbles, which is returned for a td.

The interception was on the other end of the field, they were actually driving when he threw the pick. I really though Tana could have made a better attempt at coming back to the ball, the Giant CB sure did!