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jdlea 10-05-2004, 09:44 PM I don't see a why lot of you think that he's a great or even capable QB. I see him throw balls high all the time. Coles drops balls because he has to outstretch all the time. He does drop a few that are thrown right to him, but the "fumble" was Brunell's fault. I see Brunell throw balls away when he doesn't have pressure on him. I see him start to run around the pocket when a blitzer gets close, but is demolished by Portis. I see him hold the ball too long. Most of all, I see why his passer rating is so high...all he does is check down. Clearly that's not all he does, but more often than not. People wonder why the Skins don't throw downfield, I guarantee Gibbs is calling the plays, but Brunell is checking down. Brunell has played 1 very good quarter of football this season. People blame clock management for the Cowboys loss, how about the check down that wasted over 10 seconds on the first play of the possession? How about the fact that he threw the last pass to Terrance Newman and Rod had to go over his back. Had he put the ball to the sideline Rod would have been out of bounds.
People say he didn't lose the Browns game: 13 of 24, 125 yards, no TD's; tell me how he did enough to win.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-05-2004, 10:02 PM I don't see a why lot of you think that he's a great or even capable QB. I see him throw balls high all the time.
Come on, he RARELY throws high balls....I mean completing 1 out of every 10 deep passes is really good, creme-de-la-creme, elite, fantastic.
Coles drops balls because he has to outstretch all the time.
Just because a ball is fifteen feet above his head doesn't mean Coles has an excuse, I mean he is paid a lot after all. Go up and get it!
Brunell has played 1 very good quarter of football this season.
1 out of 16 is pretty damn good.
People say he didn't lose the Browns game: 13 of 24, 125 yards, no TD's; tell me how he did enough to win.
Hey, just because he didn't throw a touchdown, throw more than 200 yards even though Portis only had about 3 carries in the entire second half, and had a sub-50% completion rate on dink-and-dunk passes, doesn't mean he didn't fare well statistically.
SUNRA 10-05-2004, 10:05 PM The subject of Mark Brunell is water under the bridge. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why we are 1-3. Clinton Portis 149 yds.= W. Clinton Portis 87, 94 or 58 yds = L,L and L. Clinton Portis three fumbles = 2 TD's in 2 games. The question that was just asked on NFL Network was, " Does this team still believe in Clinton Portis?" The answer will be answered if Portis does not have the kind of game that Priest Holmes had against the Ravens. Gibbs is very happy with the play of Brunell and it shows when he allowed Brunell to run a no huddle offense that was successful at moving the ball down the field in the first half. The bottom line is turnovers have killed this team. Brunell has not thrown an INT, fumbled or been sacked against the Browns. We need receivers who will hold on to the ball when it is thrown to them. Coles has not been the force that was expected and it has caught up with him. There will be changes at WR and RB, but not at QB because he has managed to lead this team down the field successfully. Last point, penalties were the knife in the back for the offense. 8/87 yards is ridiculous.
jdlea 10-05-2004, 10:12 PM 1 of 11 on 3rd Down
SmootSmack 10-05-2004, 10:13 PM Here are some guys with relatively comparable numbers to Brunell this weekend:
Michael Vick was 10/18 for 148 yards on Sunday. Yet the Falcons won 24-10 over the Panthers.
Marc Bulger was 17/25 for 186 yards. Rams won 24-14 over the Niners (yes I realize it was the Niners)
Jake Plummer was 13/31 for 138 yards. Broncos won 16-13 over the Bucs (yes I realize it was the Bucs)
Broncos, Rams, and Falcons all had one thing in common that the Redskins were lacking-mistake free football, i.e. no turnovers. Brunell was not responsible for Portis' fumble and he put the ball where no one but Coles could catch it, and Coles did catch it. He has to be able to hold onto the ball on the way down, it's not like he get leveled and someone jarred the ball loose.
That Guy 10-05-2004, 10:49 PM i don't know where you got those stats, but they're wrong.. he was 17-32 for 192 yards with 9 yards rushing...
That Guy 10-05-2004, 10:52 PM changes at RB sunra??? i don't really think so... i don't think its realistic to think CP is gonna have a priest holmes game either, KC has a REALLY GOOD O line for running, we don't... not even close right now...
SmootSmack 10-05-2004, 10:58 PM i don't know where you got those stats, but they're wrong.. he was 17-32 for 192 yards with 9 yards rushing...
who are you talking about?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Brunell wasn't brought in to be a gunslinger, he was brought in to manage the game and not turn the ball over.
For the most part he's done his job and he's still settling into the offense, just like everyone else on that side of the ball.
I'm not saying Brunell is playing great, because he's not, he definitely has room for improvement. Is he playing poorly though? Poor enough to be benched for an inexperienced strong-armed backup who has an even worse grasp of the offense and a much higher propensity for throwing INT's?
Does anyone actually remember the Giants game? Ramsey came in and threw 3 INT's in one half of football. 3 INT's!
We have enough turnover problems right now, the last thing we need is Ramsey coming in and throwing darts to the other team 2-3 times per game. Ramsey played poorly all preseason and it carried right over to the regular season. He's not ready, if he was he'd be in there without question.
That Guy 10-05-2004, 11:06 PM who are you talking about?
original post, brunell is listed as 17-32 and 192 yards with 9 rushing yards against the browns, and thats what i saw when i WATCHED the game ;)
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