Brunell Revisited

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MTK
10-06-2004, 08:33 AM
Can anyone honestly say that Brunell is the primary reason we are 1-3??

Portis deserves to be benched more than him.

Redskins_P
10-06-2004, 09:04 AM
Coles drops balls because he has to outstretch all the time. He does drop a few that are thrown right to him, but the "fumble" was Brunell's fault.


How is Coles fumble Brunells fault? I don't understand how its the quarterbacks fault when the receiver caught the ball and almost came down with it and lost it. So, what did Brunell go in there and knock the ball out?

ChounsMan
10-06-2004, 09:46 AM
I've read all your responses guys & the fact is Gibbs's system works, it's just gonna take time for the team to adapt to his style of ball.
It's gonna turn around, we just have to be patient. I know these days we have forgot about that & we just expect to win & nothing less, but the truth is this season is all about learning the system & building chemistry.
We are a very talented team, but lack of chemistry & understanding of Gibbs's system is stalling production.
The Giants, Cowboys, Ravens, Chargers, etc... the list goes on...
We are equal to all these teams & probably better, we just need to focus & play as a team. Lavar not being on the D is an obvious loss. Lavar is a player that changes the impact of the D & he not playing has shown some weakness in certain situations.

BE PATIENT GUYS & WE WILL TURN THIS AROUND :)

MTK
10-06-2004, 11:06 AM
Joey T tossed 20 picks his first year with Gibbs.

Gibbs isn't going to flip flop QB's, Brunell is his guy, he's had his back all season and he's going to stick with him through thick and thin.

The only way Ramsey is going to play is if Brunell gets hurt or plays himself out of the lineup, and the latter hasn't happened to date despite what people are saying.

SUNRA
10-06-2004, 11:41 AM
1 of 11 on 3rd Down

I can't believe you fell for the ookie doke. This stat is the most deceptive of all stats. How many first downs did the Redskins get? 13 first downs. What down did they get the first downs on? Try first and second downs. Which means Brunell moved the ball down the field without relying on third downs to achieve a first down.

backrow
10-06-2004, 12:32 PM
I've had that injury before but on my pinkie. My finger wasn't set back correctly and it wont straighten out right. It looks like I got 2 pinkie knuckles and its always bent like a hook.


Mine hurt Brute! But I continued on, beating my Godson at B-ball at the time! It is still bent, 5 years later!

I agree Matty! Brunell was brought in to manage the clock! That he does when the rest of the team lines up straight! Makes the yards without fumbling! Catches the ball without dropping it! Shooting itself in the foot with penalties! It's not his fault HOF Coach Gibbs won't go to a quick count/quick snap! It's not his fault HOF Coach Gibbs is stuck on a 45 second clock, and is in a time warp right now! It is not his fault, HOF Coach Gibbs throws the red flag needlessly! It's not his fault the counter plays are designed more for a Riggo styled back and not a Portis styled!

What I don't like about Brunell is the same thing I didn't like when he was in JVille! He has limitations. His arm is not Ram's arm! His hammy hurts!
He checks down without waiting!

But most of all, as was pointed out in the PS, he is a lot slower setting up in the play than Ram! His delivery is slower! His velocity is less! He cannot make up for any mistakes! In a word, he doesn't deliver value for the investment, imho! To me, it is all about value for product or service. There isn't much of his service that I like! Didn't like the trade then! Don't like it now! And now, he is HOF Gibb's main squeeze! I agree, Ram just will not get in there unless there is an injury!

irish
10-06-2004, 01:43 PM
MB is not the reason for the 1-3 record or the sputtering O. If the finger has to be pointed at 1 player it has to be Portis. He has done as close to nothing as an RB can do. Sure we can make up reasons about the O line not blocking well or whatever but CP was brought here with a home run hitter rep that he has not lived up to. The O will never get on track until they can establish the running game to set up the pass. IMO CP is by far the biggest bust for the skins this year and maybe even the NFL.

MTK
10-06-2004, 02:57 PM
I have a hard time calling Portis the biggest bust in the NFL, he's still on pace for close to 1500 yards despite his struggles. All the blame can't fall on him, some of it's got to go to the offensive line.

I can't even call him the biggest bust on the team, Mike Barrow anyone?

irish
10-06-2004, 03:04 PM
Who was traded to get Barrow? How many draft picks were involved? Portis was brought in as a game breaker that would contribute immediately not a project or run of the mill free agent. Portis for better or worse had a lot to live up to coming to DC but thats why he's getting paid a big contract. Right now he's not getting the job done.

That Guy
10-06-2004, 03:38 PM
if you want to blame portis, blame the crappy O line for not blocking for him and not creating any push...

the fumbles are his fault, but have mainly come on first hits that should have been blocked...

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