Brunell Revisited

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SmootSmack
10-05-2004, 10:10 PM
thanks That Guy

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
10-05-2004, 10:56 PM
Wait a minute. Are people saying that Brunell's numbers are satisfactory? (I didn't say great, poor, or sub-par....satisfactory)

SmootSmack
10-05-2004, 11:12 PM
I'm saying don't conclude from his stats what he did or didn't do to win the game. There were other quarterbacks with similar numbers whose teams won.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
10-05-2004, 11:15 PM
I'm saying don't conclude from his stats what he did or didn't do to win the game. There were other quarterbacks with similar numbers whose teams won.

Fair enough. His stats don't definately lead one to conclude he lost the game for us. The stats do tell me that he isn't moving the offense.

Daseal
10-05-2004, 11:17 PM
Brunell is managing the games? 4 wasted 2nd half TOs in two games? Ramsey may have thrown 3 ints in 1 half. Leading to 0 points, which hurt us a lot less than Brunells fumbles and itns in our back yard. Ramsey moved the team fine but struggled in the red zone. He didn't even play with the first offense that week, or any week before that.

SmootSmack
10-05-2004, 11:27 PM
The notion that Ramsey's turnovers led to 0 points is true, but misleading. He threw an interception (and yes I realized Rod dropped the previous pass) in the end zone which cost the team 6 points-not including the extra point-in a 6 point loss

SmootSmack
10-05-2004, 11:29 PM
And at least one of the timeouts Brunell called was because Cooley (or was it Sellers) was in the wrong formation

Brute44
10-05-2004, 11:43 PM
Coles drops balls because he has to outstretch all the time. He does drop a few that are thrown right to him, but the "fumble" was Brunell's fault.

What were you watching??? The ball was thrown perfectly to Coles. The ball wasn't even striped, Coles just dropped the ball as he was coming down. As I've said before, Coles has a middle finger that was dislocated, I've had that injury before but on my pinkie and let me tell you, IT DOESN'T HURT AT ALL WHEN ITS DISLOCATED. It hurts bigtime when the damn thing has to be reset back onto the joint. I had to go to the hospital to have mine reset into position. The nurse tried to reset it like 5 times and couldn't get it to pop back into place. By the fifth time I told the nurse to use a local anesthetic to ease the pain. My finger wasn't set back correctly and it wont straighten out right. It looks like I got 2 pinkie knuckles and its always bent like a hook. Now I got arthritis all the time. I don't know if Coles will have these problems down the road but he showed me a lot when he reset his finger without any help and didn't even come out of the game. This could be a nagging injury all season long if it wasn't reset properly.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
10-06-2004, 12:16 AM
What were you watching??? The ball was thrown perfectly to Coles. The ball wasn't even striped, Coles just dropped the ball as he was coming down.

I just watched that catch again and Brunell actually threw high, causing Coles to jump pretty high and, as you noted, the ball was dropped as he came down. Brunell threw high and Coles dropped it.

Ultimately, Coles was to blame for that one, but Brunell could've thrown the ball a bit better. Brunell didn't have to throw high to get it to Coles and avoid an INT. It's simply Brunell's tendency to throw high.

Brute44
10-06-2004, 01:19 AM
I just watched that catch again and Brunell actually threw high, causing Coles to jump pretty high and, as you noted, the ball was dropped as he came down. Brunell threw high and Coles dropped it.

Ultimately, Coles was to blame for that one, but Brunell could've thrown the ball a bit better. Brunell didn't have to throw high to get it to Coles and avoid an INT. It's simply Brunell's tendency to throw high.

Well I just looked at the replay aswell and the pass was a little high, and it also looked like the defender was right on Coles in tight coverage and the ball was thrown so Coles could get it and nobody else. If theres a tendency to throw high, its high to Coles and Coles alone.

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