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SmootSmack 09-09-2009, 04:08 PM Seems like Rock is settling down
Redskins Insider - Smith Clarifies Cartwright's Role (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/smith-clarifies-cartwrights-ro.html)
dmvskinzfan08 09-09-2009, 04:15 PM ya know, we were clearly having to discussions. the point of the discussion was Mason would not stay if we only kept 4RB's we kept 5 so that opened it up for Mason.
Now if he can prove he should replace Betts, great, but he's not replacing Rock or CP on the 45man gameday roster.
Yeah that discussion also was if Mason was going to make the team. He did. Fin.
dmvskinzfan08 09-09-2009, 04:21 PM and....DMV, some of us understood what you were trying to say, even tried to help out. ;)
but man can you hold a grudge. :) for a half wit that is. ;)
I know my fellow half wit.;). It isn't about holding a grudge. But some people think they know everything. throw out stats instead of having a decent debate. Thinking they know everything. ON this one I was right about them keeping Mason. I am still thinking I am right about Rock needing to go. But that will have to wait until next year. But now I am thinking either Rock or Betts could have been gone and we wouldn't miss a beat....But anyways.
Here is my next prediction. Most of the things I say are common sense. I dont let my feelings for a players cloud my vision for our "team's overall success"
Next year. We are going to draft a RB or get one in free agency and Rock & Betts will be gone.
Write it down..
dmvskinzfan08 09-09-2009, 04:23 PM eh...i think 4 running backs is ridiculous myself, but i concede...somewhere we had to get some youth at the spot. 3 backs near 30 yrs old is never a recipe for success.
i can see us trading or parting ways with one of these guys soon
I have this notion also. I dont know how it is going to be done and win. But I think Betts & Rock are on the bubble this year. If we can get a trade for Betts (OL/LB) he will be gone with the wind.
roth74va 09-09-2009, 04:23 PM "I talked to Rock today, and the first thing I told him was, 'No question, your major contribution is special teams. No doubt about that,'" Smith said. "You're a special-teams player. So if we go three active on Sunday, then it'll be Clinton, Ladell and Rock. So I told Rock he's really No. 3, because on game day we only have three.
"But let's say something happens to Clinton or Ladell. If they get hurt and can't play, Mason would come into that spot. It wouldn't be, all of a sudden, Rock is No. 2 and Mason is No. 3. That's just the way we explained it to him. But Rock is going to be active every week."
After speaking with Smith, Cartwright seemed to accept the situation. "I have to look at it like, 'What butters my bread?' And that's special teams," Cartwright said. "I'm satisfied with my role. I'm satisfied with having a job. I'm perfectly happy. I'm a special-teams guy and I'm here for the team."
Now thats more like it, I think he just got caught up in the heat of the moment. All of these guys are competitors, so I understand his frustration.
Ruhskins 09-09-2009, 04:28 PM I know my fellow half wit.;). It isn't about holding a grudge. But some people think they know everything. throw out stats instead of having a decent debate. Thinking they know everything. ON this one I was right about them keeping Mason. I am still thinking I am right about Rock needing to go. But that will have to wait until next year. But now I am thinking either Rock or Betts could have been gone and we wouldn't miss a beat....But anyways.
Here is my next prediction. Most of the things I say are common sense. I dont let my feelings for a players cloud my vision for our "team's overall success"
Next year. We are going to draft a RB or get one in free agency and Rock & Betts will be gone.
Write it down..
I think the bigger issue here is...how's Clinton Portis going to deal with this.
dmvskinzfan08 09-09-2009, 04:29 PM "I talked to Rock today, and the first thing I told him was, 'No question, your major contribution is special teams. No doubt about that,'" Smith said. "You're a special-teams player. So if we go three active on Sunday, then it'll be Clinton, Ladell and Rock. So I told Rock he's really No. 3, because on game day we only have three.
"But let's say something happens to Clinton or Ladell. If they get hurt and can't play, Mason would come into that spot. It wouldn't be, all of a sudden, Rock is No. 2 and Mason is No. 3. That's just the way we explained it to him. But Rock is going to be active every week."
After speaking with Smith, Cartwright seemed to accept the situation. "I have to look at it like, 'What butters my bread?' And that's special teams," Cartwright said. "I'm satisfied with my role. I'm satisfied with having a job. I'm perfectly happy. I'm a special-teams guy and I'm here for the team."
Now thats more like it, I think he just got caught up in the heat of the moment. All of these guys are competitors, so I understand his frustration.
Can we get a new special teams coach? Shouldn't Rock know the special teams is his bread and butter since he doesn't do squat at RB. I think Danny Smith is a little touched. Rock is gone next year. Even if his spot was vacant. We didn't ahve to use it for mason. Since we kept 2 QB's. We could use it for a OL or LB. Something we need more than a one dimensional ST player. If we had Thomas returning kicks or anyone else for that matter. We could use Rock space to pick up another player we need on the OL or LB. I just am tired for this love fest. I love my team as a whole. Not as individuals. I have my favorite players of course. But if they are not producing. Then oh well.
wilsowilso 09-09-2009, 04:31 PM Can we get a new special teams coach? Shouldn't Rock know the special teams is his bread and butter since he doesn't do squat at RB. I think Danny Smith is a little touched. Rock is gone next year. Even if his spot was vacant. We didn't ahve to use it for mason. Since we kept 2 QB's. We could use it for a OL or LB. Something we need more than a one dimensional ST player. If we had Thomas returning kicks or anyone else for that matter. We could use Rock space to pick up another player we need on the OL or LB. I just am tired for this love fest. I love my team as a whole. Not as individuals. I have my favorite players of course. But if they are not producing. Then oh well.
So what u r saying is that you really really like Rock.
dmvskinzfan08 09-09-2009, 04:32 PM I think the bigger issue here is...how's Clinton Portis going to deal with this.
I think Clinton knows he is getting older. I think he really only hopes to play liek 2 more years after this one. Thought I recalled him saying that last year or so in an interview. I may be wrong. Clinton will be fine. He lobbied for Mason last year. He knows he can't play forever. That's why I am so pissed with the Love fest for Rock and Betts. They are BOTH OLDER THAN CP (29). Then people are getting mad because we bring in Mason. We need youth at the RB position. How are both of your back-ups older than the starter. What does that hold for the future?
For Rock opening his mouth in that article and being unappreciative that we kept him and for betts non-production as well as Rock no producing at the RB spot and being a average KR. Both will be gone next year.
dmvskinzfan08 09-09-2009, 04:33 PM so what u r saying is that you really really like rock.
lmao.
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