Let's Talk QB Height (w/ Daniel going to N.O.)

What did you expect Chase to do? Zorn did his thing and Chase did his. Zorn and co has a job of bringing a winner back to DC and Chase is trying to make it in the NFL. He probably is pissed at being cut in the first place with Colt on IR and might think he has a better shot in NO for some reason. My personal prediction now is neither Chase or Colt will ever gain starter status. I have a feeling we are going to draft another QB in 2010 and might even go for one of the big names. To me that makes sense with what has transpired. It is dumb to only have 2 active QB's on your roster, especially with an offensive line as old as ours. IF the kid was too short, why bother signing him in the first place.

How is it dumb to only have 2 qbs? If we get to the third qb, the season is over.

Well Chase or whoever might be able tosalvage a season if both JC and Collins went down. We have the oldest line in football. Do you think these guys are going to make it through a 16 game season without missing games? Hasn't happened in a long time. Collins is an old man. What if JC goes down with a ACL tear against the GMen Sunday. You are stuck with Collins for 15 games. Think he could last with an injury prone line?

Well Chase or whoever might be able tosalvage a season if both JC and Collins went down. We have the oldest line in football. Do you think these guys are going to make it through a 16 game season without missing games? Hasn't happened in a long time. Collins is an old man. What if JC goes down with a ACL tear against the GMen Sunday. You are stuck with Collins for 15 games. Think he could last with an injury prone line?

Very few teams...except for the almighty Patriots...are going to be successful if their 2nd QB and their 3rd QB have to start because the starting QB goes down with injury.

My point is you need to be prepared for some really messed up contingencies. Look at Minnesota last year. Jackson sucked, they throw in Frerotte, he gets hurt, etc. Teams getting stuck going to #3 QBs isn't all that rare.

What do you mean? Collins got us into the playoffs last as a backup. Brady got his big start as a backup winning the SB. I rather have a real QB than one that was converted into a WR(ARE). I think Colt or Chase could have won some games starting.

My point is you need to be prepared for some really messed up contingencies. Look at Minnesota last year. Jackson sucked, they throw in Frerotte, he gets hurt, etc. Teams getting stuck going to #3 QBs isn't all that rare.


I see Minnesota had 4 people throw the ball last year, Jackson, Butthead, Sidney Rice and Chester Taylor. So who was the third?

Actually it is incredibly rare. Have the Redskins used a 3rd QB since the bodybag game? When did they use one before that?

My point is you need to be prepared for some really messed up contingencies. Look at Minnesota last year. Jackson sucked, they throw in Frerotte, he gets hurt, etc. Teams getting stuck going to #3 QBs isn't all that rare.

Yes, Minny's 1st QB sucked, then they put their 2nd QB, then the 2nd QB got hurt, and plugged in the 1st QB again. Where's the 3rd stringer here?

What do you mean? Collins got us into the playoffs last as a backup. Brady got his big start as a backup winning the SB. I rather have a real QB than one that was converted into a WR(ARE). I think Colt or Chase could have won some games starting.

The key word here is back ups, but you were talking about going with a 3rd stringer...

Teams getting stuck going to #3 QBs isn't all that rare.

People are obsessed with statistics in football. That's why so much is put into a 40 yard dash for runningbacks, cornerbacks, and wide receivers. For quarterbacks, it's arm strength and height.

Short and good is better than tall and bad.

Tall and good is better than short and good.

Back to the discussion of height:

In terms of actually throwing, I think it is a non-issue. Most qb's have to throw through open lanes. Even if the qb is taller the Dlinemen know to get their hands up to knock it down.

In terms of seeing the whole field, I think this is where the issue is created. If you are 6'0 and the average OL/DL is 6'2 -6'4, then when you are back trying to read your progressions, you may not see a LB who sits down on a lane because of your view is obstructed. That is why you would have more designed rollouts, or leave the pocket faster, so you can see.

KI sums up the net effect real well.

I also imagine, but don't know this, that in college, the OL/DL height also would have a lower average height. I mean out of all the positions, I think OL/DL really skims only the cream of the crop. I doubt there are any NFL OL/DL that are under 6'2". I did not look at any references so I easily could be wrong.