Zorn Makes Great Progress with New Offense Geared To Campbells Talents

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12thMan
09-05-2009, 04:04 PM
Goes to show the formula for winning a Super Bowl doesn't include having a great feature back, especially one who's the higest paid player on Offense. The Steelers were getting 100 yard games from their 3rd stringer last year, Melwelde Moore. And look at who the Pats had in their backfield when they won their Super Bowls. I think the Skins would be more successful if Portis got less yards, assuming they had 1 or 2 other RBs contributing.

Exactly. You bring up a good point. That's why I said we lived or died with Portis last year. Not just because of his own production, but because the workload wasn't distributed amongst the other running backs.

NYCskinfan82
09-05-2009, 04:06 PM
We went to CP last yr because we had no other weapons they double teamed Moss & Cooley last yr the rookies didn't and some couldn't step up. This year as long as we get some participation we should be good and i think we will. HTTR.

RiggoRanger
09-05-2009, 04:07 PM
I'm still waiting to see this deep ball that JC is supposed to be so good at throwing. He's been 1/4 in the preseason, and he was routinely missing receivers all of last year and the year before.

I'm glad that Zorn will open things up more for JC, but I'll be happier to see JC not over or under throwing wide-open receivers.

NYCskinfan82
09-05-2009, 04:08 PM
Exactly. You bring up a good point. That's why I said we lived or died with Portis last year. Not just because of his own production, but because the workload wasn't distributed amongst the other running backs.

I agree i've said this before we have a bunch of RB's on the bench that aren't challengeing CP there PRO bench warmers keep Aldridge and Mason cut Rock.

Zorn on the 4th of July
09-05-2009, 06:34 PM
Don't forget the (huge) improvements we are likely to see simply because Zorn is returning as the head coach. The Skins' 2nd-half (semi-) collapse last season was partially due to frustration with the new head coach. Remember how many shots we saw of Portis jawing on the sidelines with Zorn? Portis was obviously (and usually rightfully) frustrated. Neither the players or the coach had been through an entire season yet, didn't know how to deal with each other, and I bet many of the players longed for the Gibbs days.

I am a Florida grad and I saw the same phenomenon with Urban Meyer during his first season in 2005. A few players left the team prior to the season, and a few more quit playing hard part-way through the season. The result was a pedestrian 9-3 record (and a bowl loss to a pitiful Michigan team).

2006 rolled around and players realized there was no going back to the old days of the "player's coach" (Ron Zook). The Gators buckled down, focused, and learned to work together and communicate (players and coaching staff). The Gators had lost a heartbreaking game in '05 to LSU that had Urban Meyer in tears in the post game as he realized his spread system was not suited to Chris Leak, a phenomenal pocket passer. 2006 saw an offense more tailored to Leak's style. Yes, Tim Tebow began to see playing time, but review the season and you will see that it was Leak's season. The result? 13-1. National Champions.

Look at the Giants. Look at the Eagles. Look at the Cowboys. Do any of these teams honestly frighten you? Look at our roster: who we have returning and who we've acquired. We no longer have a rookie coach. I will be surprised if we don't win the division outright. Shocked, even. I don't care about winning the NFC, I don't care about the Super Bowl. It's a lot of luck at that point. But if we don't win the East, I will be surprised.

53Fan
09-05-2009, 06:38 PM
Don't forget the (huge) improvements we are likely to see simply because Zorn is returning as the head coach. The Skins' 2nd-half (semi-) collapse last season was partially due to frustration with the new head coach. Remember how many shots we saw of Portis jawing on the sidelines with Zorn? Portis was obviously (and usually rightfully) frustrated. Neither the players or the coach had been through an entire season yet, didn't know how to deal with each other, and I bet many of the players longed for the Gibbs days.

I am a Florida grad and I saw the same phenomenon with Urban Meyer during his first season in 2005. A few players left the team prior to the season, and a few more quit playing hard part-way through the season. The result was a pedestrian 9-3 record (and a bowl loss to a pitiful Michigan team).

2006 rolled around and players realized there was no going back to the old days of the "player's coach" (Ron Zook). The Gators buckled down, focused, and learned to work together and communicate (players and coaching staff). The Gators had lost a heartbreaking game in '05 to LSU that had Urban Meyer in tears in the post game as he realized his spread system was not suited to Chris Leak, a phenomenal pocket passer. 2006 saw an offense more tailored to Leak's style. Yes, Tim Tebow began to see playing time, but review the season and you will see that it was Leak's season. The result? 13-1. National Champions.

Look at the Giants. Look at the Eagles. Look at the Cowboys. Do any of these teams honestly frighten you? Look at our roster: who we have returning and who we've acquired. We no longer have a rookie coach. I will be surprised if we don't win the division outright. Shocked, even. I don't care about winning the NFC, I don't care about the Super Bowl. It's a lot of luck at that point. But if we don't win the East, I will be surprised.

I do care about the Super Bowl, but I like your style brother!

NYCskinfan82
09-05-2009, 07:05 PM
Don't forget the (huge) improvements we are likely to see simply because Zorn is returning as the head coach. The Skins' 2nd-half (semi-) collapse last season was partially due to frustration with the new head coach. Remember how many shots we saw of Portis jawing on the sidelines with Zorn? Portis was obviously (and usually rightfully) frustrated. Neither the players or the coach had been through an entire season yet, didn't know how to deal with each other, and I bet many of the players longed for the Gibbs days.

I am a Florida grad and I saw the same phenomenon with Urban Meyer during his first season in 2005. A few players left the team prior to the season, and a few more quit playing hard part-way through the season. The result was a pedestrian 9-3 record (and a bowl loss to a pitiful Michigan team).

2006 rolled around and players realized there was no going back to the old days of the "player's coach" (Ron Zook). The Gators buckled down, focused, and learned to work together and communicate (players and coaching staff). The Gators had lost a heartbreaking game in '05 to LSU that had Urban Meyer in tears in the post game as he realized his spread system was not suited to Chris Leak, a phenomenal pocket passer. 2006 saw an offense more tailored to Leak's style. Yes, Tim Tebow began to see playing time, but review the season and you will see that it was Leak's season. The result? 13-1. National Champions.

Look at the Giants. Look at the Eagles. Look at the Cowboys. Do any of these teams honestly frighten you? Look at our roster: who we have returning and who we've acquired. We no longer have a rookie coach. I will be surprised if we don't win the division outright. Shocked, even. I don't care about winning the NFC, I don't care about the Super Bowl. It's a lot of luck at that point. But if we don't win the East, I will be surprised.


Very nice read but the SB is important but i to would be very suprised if we didn't win the division. HTTR.

30gut
09-05-2009, 07:13 PM
I think Zorn began realizing last season that JC big arm can help gain chunks of yardage from I-Form playaction:

NFL Videos (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...vs-Browns-2008)

NFL Videos (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...s-Cowboys-2008)

The Goat
09-05-2009, 07:24 PM
Somewhat agree. I also think Zorn does not want to give the Giants anything to work with for the first game so he has let JC take a shot here and there or maybe purposefully has him missing to make other teams think our timing is off then come day 1 slam the Giants. ...LOL. Conspirathy theory. LOL. I also think he was trying to either get JC to use all his receivers or look at all the WR's he had on the roster. I get the feeling Zorn is going to suprise people this yr with the down the field passing game he was talking about last yr.

I def agree w/ this. Bet by week 3 or 4 the talking heads will be commenting about how we have a whole new offense after years of the doldrums. I'm getting excited cuz I really think the offense could be a wonderful surprise if the damn oline holds up.

Miller101
09-05-2009, 07:54 PM
Exactly. You bring up a good point. That's why I said we lived or died with Portis last year. Not just because of his own production, but because the workload wasn't distributed amongst the other running backs.

Good Point! Betts is a good back up and he should get alot more carries this year. Portis won't get so banged up that way and we can have him healthy for our playoff push this year.

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