CRedskinsRule
09-02-2009, 01:16 PM
Thats a huge overexaggeration, yes he looked winded but he wasn't about to pass out on the sideline. I'm very impressed with him. He consistently takes on 2 to 3 defenders allowing for others to make plays. I hate the fact that since he doesnt make the "ooh aaah" play people will not see him for the value he truly brings.
Exactly.
Jay Schroeder
09-02-2009, 01:21 PM
If the other players on the line don't make plays that's on them, not AH IMO. He's doing his part, they just need to do theirs. As far as Monty goes, if he wasn't so lazy they might not of needed AH to begin with.
Agreed
Im worried that our other linemen aren't capable of it (in terms of getting to the qb)
Orakpo will certainly help...but we dont have any other threat to the qb that I see
30gut
09-02-2009, 01:30 PM
do you make a trade and if so for what?
I say no cause Griffin only has like a year left in him and Montgomery is the future.
I agree with you, it doesn't make sense to trade Monty.
Monty is a good young DT he would be starting material on other teams.
And unless we were given that type of value it wouldn't make sense.
By value i'm mean whatever the going rate is for starting caliber space eating 1 tech/DT.
And because of Hayneworth (and Monty's laziness??) he can't get that value because he doesn't start.
Losing Monty would also deplete the depth along the DL which is one of this teams strentghs.
Hayneworth is a beast he rarely if ever plays the entire season.
Having a solid rotation to keep him fresh is essential.
Trading Monty decreases the effectiveness of Haynesworth.
53Fan
09-02-2009, 01:38 PM
I agree with you, it doesn't make sense to trade Monty.
Monty is a good young DT he would be starting material on other teams.
And unless we were given that type of value it wouldn't make sense.
By value i'm mean whatever the going rate is for starting caliber space eating 1 tech/DT.
And because of Hayneworth (and Monty's laziness??) he can't get that value because he doesn't start.
Losing Monty would also deplete the depth along the DL which is one of this teams strentghs.
Hayneworth is a beast he rarely if ever plays the entire season.
Having a solid rotation to keep him fresh is essential.
Trading Monty decreases the effectiveness of Haynesworth.
I agree. We need a solid rotation to keep the line "fresh" and I would only trade Monty if we received the proper value in return. Monty has the physical tools to be a solid tackle who can impose his will on the o-line. The knock against him has always been he's an underachiever. He's good enough to start, but he could be so much better.
artmonkforhallofamein07
09-02-2009, 02:18 PM
what about the chance that a hungry guy like dixon would then most likely be on the team? wouldn't a guy like dixon be montys replacement? so we would get a draft pick and have a formidable dt in dixon ready to step in.
saden1
09-02-2009, 02:24 PM
I like what GB said..."you got to be stupid not to realize the guy we just paid 100 million is going to start." Montgomery has no reason to be unhappy seeing how he's a decent player at best. I'm not even sure if he's a legit starter on the Skins without Fat Albert presence.
Ruhskins
09-02-2009, 02:29 PM
what about the chance that a hungry guy like dixon would then most likely be on the team? wouldn't a guy like dixon be montys replacement? so we would get a draft pick and have a formidable dt in dixon ready to step in.
Good point. I wouldn't mind us trading Monty somewhere where they need some defensive help. For once I would like to see us stockpiling picks.
artmonkforhallofamein07
09-02-2009, 02:33 PM
Stockpiling picks is a great thing! I for one think this team is doing a nice job of building a good core group of young players/ good veterans. Another draft pick would definatley help in that area.
hooskins
09-02-2009, 02:43 PM
I agree. If he's not making the "ooh aaah" plays, he's definitely helping someone else make them. Doc was saying that if he wants to be like Reggie White he may have to get in better shape because Reggie played every down. If he's playing at 350, maybe he should be at 330-335. He also said at this point in the season it's too late but the coaches may want to talk to him in the future about what it would take to be like Reggie if that's what he really wants. Only AH can decide that. As it is, the guy is pushing 600 lbs. around on every play. Sometimes more. If the other players on the line don't make plays that's on them, not AH IMO. He's doing his part, they just need to do theirs. As far as Monty goes, if he wasn't so lazy they might not of needed AH to begin with.
Really who is exactly making those plays then?
No pressure at all against NE. AH was brought in to speed up qbs and create turnovers. Havent been a ton of those on the first team either. I dont see a good amount of sacks by our DEs or LBs.
I am not saying AH's health is a problem, but he hasn't made the crazy impact he did in Tenn so far.
PennSkinsFan
09-02-2009, 02:44 PM
My thoughts are --- compete. Win a job. Beat out Griffin. Show you can start.