Skins sell ticket straight to scalpers

between EBAY and STUBHUB .. isn't everything scalped these days

And this site. You're correct!

Or the Redskins & their Ticket Operations department got caught and are now 'blaming' a handful of rogue tickets sales people (fall guys).

Maybe. But I see no gain for the Redskins as an organization by ignoring the waiting list and selling to outlets. If the organization wanted more per ticket, it could simply raise the price. And in these rogue sales, the organization loses control over pricing and distribution, which would be quite foolish in terms of the interests of the organization. The whole scenario only makes sense if the problem really is rogue ticket sellers.

The article is not about the Redskins organization engaging in an illegal practice. It is about workers in the ticket office who make some extra cash for themselves by selling tickets to brokers rather than to the people on the ticket waiting list. The Redskins organization as a whole wants the tickets to go to those on the waiting list but apparently some unscrupulous folks in the ticket office have subverted the ideal scenario. So when we read that these individuals have been "disciplined," it is fair to guess that this means "fired."

Correct, the article is not about the Redskins engaging in an illegal practice. Nothing they are doing is illegal...its their tickets and they can do whatever they want. But the article is not blaming this on a couple of rogue ticket sellers...the intent of the article is to blame the Redskins Organization as a whole. The article points out that these sales to brokers where handled by the Vice President of Premium ticket sales.

Really, the article is just saying the famed Redskins waiting list is pointless and meaningless.

Maybe. But I see no gain for the Redskins as an organization by ignoring the waiting list and selling to outlets. If the organization wanted more per ticket, it could simply raise the price. And in these rogue sales, the organization loses control over pricing and distribution, which would be quite foolish in terms of the interests of the organization. The whole scenario only makes sense if the problem really is rogue ticket sellers.

The gain is that they sell their club level seats. In these broker deals, the broker agrees to buy club level seats so they can buy regular seats as well. If they went thru the wait list.....then they could not sell the club level seats.

I wish they sold club level seats one game at a time. I would pay the extra money to see one game in club level....but I could not afford a ten year contract.

The post article points out some things that just add to the reasons I think fedex sucks overall. A few years ago Va. Tech's AD said during the expansion of Lane Stadium that they didn't want to make it "too big" because they wanted to keep demand high.

There's something to be said for that. with 91,000 seats & a mediocre team at best (since fedex opened) it's hard to keep demand up. Yet the Skins have been saying for years that it is & they have a waiting list, etc.

My dream scenario to happen within the next 10 years; the Skins make a deal w/DC to come back where they belong (RFK site?), build a stadium that seats about 70,000 & features some of the great things that RFK had. Ticket demand goes up again & the Skins are playing where they belong. Of course, we win a super bowl once we're back in dc!

btw, expect JJ & his cowpoke stadium to experience all of this in the coming years. The novelty of the new digs will wear off & he'll be trying to sell high end tickets to pay the financing on 1.2 bill.

Well, one thing JJ did that was "clever" was he made the technical capacity around 80000, but it can be expanded to 100000, so he does not need to really sell out 100000 seats, unless the event calls for it. Not quite sure of the mechanics of it.

I get my tickets from Marion Barry at a discount. :pimp:

I really feel like this robs the season ticket holders of the stadium experience. this never happened in RFK. Now I understand why there always seems to be an army of opposing team supporters. very frustrating.

I'm also annoyed by the terrible menu options associated with the Tailgate Club. Why does it feel like the skins are always trying to fleece the fan?

I think the issue is there are people (loyal fans) on the waiting list for years that were passed up in favor of selling many of the highly sought after 100 level seats to brokers, who in turn sell to anyone including Steelers fans.
If true then what is the point of the waiting list? The whole ticket broker business seems crooked. There must be a lot of secret handshake deals. How is that the brokers get all the good seats for most events?

This article was more disturbing:
Selling to Brokers, Suing Fans (washingtonpost.com) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/sports/redskins-tickets/index.html)

The billion dollar Redskins sue a guy who can no longer afford to pay for his tickets? WTF? This guy gave the Redskins a heads up that they would like to cancel. Not very good PR.


I'm not sold on the 160,000 people waiting for season tickets. I have received around 5 things from the Skins to get back my season tickets I gave up over a year ago. If they had so many people on this waiting list why are they waisting so much money trying to get back people who gave up their season tickets and I only had mine for one year? It just does not make sense. For the guy the sued he did sign a 6 year deal and signed a contract so they had every right to sue the guy. It also probably points out that if they had such a waiting list why not just sell the tickets to the next guy in line? It probably because they don't have anyone else in line for tickets. They sell these things to brokers because it guarantees that they will sell the ticket. I'd rather see them hold on to more of these tickets and sell them off for each game and not as a season package deal. I know I would buy tickets to a few games every year but I do not want to buy a full season. Also with season ticket sales they also force you to buy the preseason games which they would take a big hit on if they did not package them into the season ticket package.