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irish
09-04-2009, 02:12 PM
Agreed. I just find it hard to believe the Skins are the only big bad bully on the block.

I dont think the Skins are the only big bad bully on the block but I think they are the biggest and baddest.

I agree the Skins seem to try to work out deals but you cant get blood out of a stone. If the people dont have the $ then they dont have the $. The easiest and best course of action for the Skins is to wish those folks well, send them on their way, and sell the tix to someone else. In the end I just dont see what the Skins gained by handling these cases the way they did. They got a few thousand $ and a whole lot of bad publicity. IMO the former isnt worth more than the latter.

irish
09-04-2009, 02:14 PM
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/02/AR2009090203887.html?hpid=topnews)

I don't get it. For team that is Forbes #2 most profitable NFL Team, and proudly boast about how much revenue they generate. Now they are suing a 72 year old grandmother who was suddenly hit by the hard economic times. Classy.

Since DS took ownership of the team, classy isnt a word that associated with the Redskins anymore.

Defensewins
09-04-2009, 02:15 PM
Amen brother.
What are these guys thinking. You know, I used to think it was Cerratto that used to make all the dumb moves. But now this proves it not Cerratto, it is Snyder. I hope Snyder has good body guards. He is going to get his ass kicked. GREEDY little bitch!

SmootSmack
09-04-2009, 02:19 PM
Since DS took ownership of the team, classy isnt a word that associated with the Redskins anymore.

They weren't exactly a beacon of class before Snyder either. The Redskins run a tough business, which is what they are-a business. It's a game to the fans, but that's not reality

CRedskinsRule
09-04-2009, 02:24 PM
Ridiculous to hate on Snyder for utilizing standard business practices. But not really surprising.

irish
09-04-2009, 02:28 PM
They weren't exactly a beacon of class before Snyder either. The Redskins run a tough business, which is what they are-a business. It's a game to the fans, but that's not reality

It is a business but its a different kind of business. One for the business between owner & player, and another for the organization & fan. I think the former is more like a business we are used to (car dealer, etc.) and the latter is more like a public relations group.

Defensewins
09-04-2009, 02:55 PM
Ridiculous to hate on Snyder for utilizing standard business practices. But not really surprising.

I am not hating on Snyder, I am hating on his decision to sue a 72 year old grandmother and life long/die hard Redskins fan that no longer has the money to afford her tickets. This women did not even have enough money for a lawyer.
Here at my arena, we had a dozen or so big corporations that had signed multi-year corporate deals (sponsorships and/or advertising deals) go belly up during this recent recession. We did not sue them. I think your 'standard business practices' is a little bit of an over generalization.

SmootSmack
09-04-2009, 03:10 PM
I am not hating on Snyder, I am hating on his decision to sue a 72 year old grandmother and life long/die hard Redskins fan that no longer has the money to afford her tickets. This women did not even have enough money for a lawyer.
Here at my arena, we had a dozen or so big corporations that had signed multi-year corporate deals (sponsorships and/or advertising deals) go belly up during this recent recession. We did not sue them. I think your 'standard business practices' is a little bit of an over generalization.

How did you guys handle it?

CRedskinsRule
09-04-2009, 03:15 PM
I am not hating on Snyder, I am hating on his decision to sue a 72 year old grandmother and life long/die hard Redskins fan that no longer has the money to afford her tickets. This women did not even have enough money for a lawyer.
Here at my arena, we had a dozen or so big corporations that had signed multi-year corporate deals (sponsorships and/or advertising deals) go belly up during this recent recession. We did not sue them. I think your 'standard business practices' is a little bit of an over generalization.
Your 72 yo grandmother had over 100,000 dollars in debt not just to the Redskins. I think alot of my disdain in this goes back to how the media spins things. Do you really think this is all the story behind it? I read the opening paragraphs, and the lil ole grandmother, and I felt like the Post was just trying to do a hatchet job. I have no idea if there was sufficient justification, or what steps the Skins did or didn't do to resolve it without a lawsuit. But this lady wasn't some helpless clueless grandma sitting down and knitting sweaters. She was a real estate agent. She dealt with contracts for her livelihood.

As to the fact that the Skins maybe do this the most, could it be because they have the largest ticket base. if they do 20 lawsuits for 20000 club seats(just simplifying the numbers) thats 1 for every 1000 CLUB seats. How many club seats does Gillette stadium have? or any other stadium.

This article was written with one intent, paint as sympathetic view of the people who broke the contract, and as antagonistic view of the Skins business practice, as possible. There was little if any attempt to portray a balanced viewpoint, and it was relatively lazy journalism.
I say lazy journalism, because lawsuits are public domain. Instead of just accepting a no answer or decline to comment, pull up the records. Did Dallas do this same tactic. What about teams that have the top 10 # of club level seats? Were the Skins the only ones, or did 6 other teams that have large stadiums file lawsuits. What steps did the Redskins offer the 72 year old grandmother. Why did she not go to court and dispute it - I want say again, she was a very successful real estate agent who dealt with contracts mortgage lending, etc. not a stay at home, unsure of the banking and finance.

This article smacks of the media's intent to shape opinions rather than report facts in an unbiased manor.

Defensewins
09-04-2009, 03:29 PM
How did you guys handle it?

We eventually found other companies to replace the ones we lost. It might have taken a little bit of time and in the end some of the new deals were not as sweet as the old ones we lost. But overall we are fine. Here in Houston, like Washington DC, there is money. The recession did not hit as hard as other parts of the country like Detroit. The Redskins will find people to buy their seats and if they don't maybe they are charging more than the market is willing to pay.

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