I Was impressed!!!

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beemnsevenspop
09-01-2009, 11:07 AM
So you want me to blindly hate our team's QB and wish for a change thinking that this is going to change the team overnight?
Yes, I do remember Heath Shuler, and I don't know why you even bringing him up. I'm not saying taht JC is going to throw for 400 yds every single game and take us undefeated all season. But I think he's a solid QB that has gotten some shitty fortunes for the past couple of seasons. He's the best option at QB, and if the offensive line protects him we will see him make plays like he did when we went 6-2 last season. Our team is still a run-first team with a very good defense. We don't need Campbell to put the team on his back every single time, we just need him to be a good QB and this is the last season he has to prove this. If he doesn't, he's gone and the team can start from scratch. Until them, you'll see me defending him from the JC-hating lunatics, and praising him when he does well (which I hope happens a lot this season).

To begin with, I don't know where you got the notion that I WANT you to "blindly hate" the QB, wish for change, or anything ELSE, for that matter. I have no expectation that you will alter your likes or dislikes based on anything I have to say.

Like you and so many others on this forum, I merely express my opinions, which can be considered and agreed with, disagreed with, discounted, or ignored. UNLIKE you and so many others on this forum, I resort neither to name-calling (see your comment in [2nd] bold above) nor ridicule (see another member's reaction to my JC/Shuler comparison on this thread dated 8-31), in response to another forum member's posts, regardless of how deeply the content of that post conflicts with my view. It seems to me that such practices are best left to the class clowns and schoolyard bullies of this world. That's not to say, however, that I won't directly respond, in a manner I deem appropriate, to those comments I find to be particularly offensive.

With respect to your remark about not knowing why I brought up Shuler, you may have overlooked my response - appearing four posts behind your current post directed towards me - to another member's inquiry, in which I attempted to clarify my previous comparison of the two QBs. Perhaps if you (and others similarly incensed) were to go back and read it, you might just gain a better perspective of my position.

I agree with you on a number of points that you brought up, however, the bottom line is, while you optimistically refer to the 6-2 record last season, the pessimist in me points to the 2-6 record. And as QB, JC assumes the lion's share of responsibility - for BOTH records, regardless of mitigating factors.

AGAIN, my assessment (which I recognize, in the grand scheme of things, is not worth a plugged nickle) of his overall ability to lead the team is not limited to the last half of last season and the first two games of this pre-season. I sincerely wish to see a winning season culminating with playoff appearances(s). I just don't think JC has 16 games of solid performance in him to sustain that effort.

However, I'll certainly join in with you in heaping praise upon him as circumstances dictate. Hopefully, that will occur frequently.

SBXVII
09-01-2009, 12:24 PM
With respect to your remark about not knowing why I brought up Shuler, you may have overlooked my response - appearing four posts behind your current post directed towards me - to another member's inquiry, in which I attempted to clarify my previous comparison of the two QBs. Perhaps if you (and others similarly incensed) were to go back and read it, you might just gain a better perspective of my position.


WoW, I kinda got lost in all this. LOL. But essentially I agree with you. :)

beemnsevenspop
09-01-2009, 01:00 PM
With respect to your remark about not knowing why I brought up Shuler, you may have overlooked my response - appearing four posts behind your current post directed towards me - to another member's inquiry, in which I attempted to clarify my previous comparison of the two QBs. Perhaps if you (and others similarly incensed) were to go back and read it, you might just gain a better perspective of my position.


WoW, I kinda got lost in all this. LOL. But essentially I agree with you. :)


I DO have a tendency to ramble.....

Ruhskins
09-01-2009, 01:09 PM
To begin with, I don't know where you got the notion that I WANT you to "blindly hate" the QB, wish for change, or anything ELSE, for that matter. I have no expectation that you will alter your likes or dislikes based on anything I have to say.

Like you and so many others on this forum, I merely express my opinions, which can be considered and agreed with, disagreed with, discounted, or ignored. UNLIKE you and so many others on this forum, I resort neither to name-calling (see your comment in [2nd] bold above) nor ridicule (see another member's reaction to my JC/Shuler comparison on this thread dated 8-31), in response to another forum member's posts, regardless of how deeply the content of that post conflicts with my view. It seems to me that such practices are best left to the class clowns and schoolyard bullies of this world. That's not to say, however, that I won't directly respond, in a manner I deem appropriate, to those comments I find to be particularly offensive.

With respect to your remark about not knowing why I brought up Shuler, you may have overlooked my response - appearing four posts behind your current post directed towards me - to another member's inquiry, in which I attempted to clarify my previous comparison of the two QBs. Perhaps if you (and others similarly incensed) were to go back and read it, you might just gain a better perspective of my position.

I agree with you on a number of points that you brought up, however, the bottom line is, while you optimistically refer to the 6-2 record last season, the pessimist in me points to the 2-6 record. And as QB, JC assumes the lion's share of responsibility - for BOTH records, regardless of mitigating factors.

AGAIN, my assessment (which I recognize, in the grand scheme of things, is not worth a plugged nickle) of his overall ability to lead the team is not limited to the last half of last season and the first two games of this pre-season. I sincerely wish to see a winning season culminating with playoff appearances(s). I just don't think JC has 16 games of solid performance in him to sustain that effort.

However, I'll certainly join in with you in heaping praise upon him as circumstances dictate. Hopefully, that will occur frequently.

My apologies for the name calling, I wasn't referring specifically to you when I mentioned that (although it appears I did a poor job on that). And I do appreciate your response to clear things up, and in turn I am doing likewise.

I DO have a tendency to ramble.....

A lot of us tend to do that here. LOL.

JLee9718
09-01-2009, 02:18 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing more of Chase and Marko just to make sure they can continue playing at a high level.

beemnsevenspop
09-01-2009, 02:33 PM
My apologies for the name calling, I wasn't referring specifically to you when I mentioned that (although it appears I did a poor job on that). And I do appreciate your response to clear things up, and in turn I am doing likewise.



A lot of us tend to do that here. LOL.

Without wanting to appear as though I'm calling a time out for a group hug :-), no apology is necessary, as I DID infer that you seemed to be lumping me into that category. If you say that was not your intent, I certainly accept your explanation.

Trample the Elderly
09-01-2009, 02:39 PM
Without wanting to appear as though I'm calling a time out for a group hug :-), no apology is necessary, as I DID infer that you seemed to be lumping me into that category. If you say that was not your intent, I certainly accept your explanation.

Whatever was said, just pretend that it came from me and it will be all good. I can take it!

53Fan
09-01-2009, 05:09 PM
Whatever was said, just pretend that it came from me and it will be all good. I can take it!

Yeah, Tramps the biggest troublemaker on this whole board.

Trample the Elderly
09-01-2009, 05:23 PM
Yeah, Tramps the biggest troublemaker on this whole board.

What's popping 53? :Smoker:

I missed the last half of the game. I did like the way we moved the ball. It's nice to see them throw the long ball again. How long has it been?

53Fan
09-01-2009, 05:44 PM
What's popping 53? :Smoker:

I missed the last half of the game. I did like the way we moved the ball. It's nice to see them throw the long ball again. How long has it been?

Too long buddy.....too long. But there's a new tide rising. So get your board and we'll ride this wave all the way to the Super Bowl!

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