I Was impressed!!!

Do you pops? Not even close to being the same.

You are correct about Shuler not being in Campbell's class - my point, and I s'pose I should have clarified it, was that Shuler - like Campbell - was billed as the Redskins' "Savior", so to speak; both first rounders, and both disappointments. If you're happy with JC's output after the past four freaking years, then by setting your sights low, you'll not be disappointed come the end of this season.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing the same flimsy excuse about his performances - too many changes in offensive coordinators/offensive schemes and philosophies - being regurgitated year after year by myopic Campbell fans. Flacco and Ryan changed coordinators/systems - look how THEY produced their first year.

How many more lackluster seasons by this guy will it take for management to make the necessary adjustments to the roster? Shuler fit well in Tennessee's scheme, as Campbell did at Auburn - but alas, sometimes, college heroes are destined to become NFL zeroes. And while JC's not quite a zero, he's probably more attuned to assuming the role of backup.

Jusmytoosenzwurth - for what THAT'S worth.....

I know a good crow restaurant in Miami, and February is crow season. :)

My, you ARE the optimist, ain't-cha? :-)

So who do you think is the ultimate game manager?

Roethlisberger, Pennington, Delhomme are all guys who fit this bill, IMO. Solid QB's who put their team in positions to win, know when to make plays and when NOT to try to force plays, but are not going to "take over the game" like a Peyton Manning or Drew Brees.

I might even put McNabb in this category these days.

Being a gunslinger QB gets you on SportsCenter and to the top of fantasy football positional rankings, but doesn't guarantee Super Bowl rings. Favre is one of the undisputed all-time gunslingers, and owns how many NFL passing records, but owns just as many Super Bowl rings as Mark Rypien. Coincidence?

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are not gunslingers. They are elite, well-rounded QBs whose physical gifts are exceeded only by their decision making skills.

It's pretty easy to look at a Brett Favre or Kurt Warner and find ample evidence of poor decision-making, though. High risk, high reward.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing the same flimsy excuse about his performances - too many changes in offensive coordinators/offensive schemes and philosophies - being regurgitated year after year by myopic Campbell fans. Flacco and Ryan changed coordinators/systems - look how THEY produced their first year.

I'm sure you know this, but obviously this is necessary to remind u; learning a new offense system is harder than you think, even than we think.. QB is a position who have to knowledge of every position (perhaps except for o-line?).. Give the guy a break, this is his first time to have same offense for 2nd year, at least can you wait the judgment until the season is over?

Flacco; Cam Cameron protected him by calling LOT of running plays, Ravens is #1 in NFL for calling running plays (60% or something like that).. Ryan, I don't really have an argument for him, except that maybe he did not really change much on his throwing motions/footing? While JC was working on both throwing motions/footing and learning the system.. Or maybe Ryan is just that good?

After all, it's not like we can do something about it but to accept that he is our #1 QB.. Some of you guys have been arguing against JC for whole off-season and preseasons, and yet this does not make anything different for Redskins and us fans.. We all have heard same arguments over and over and over.. What's the point of continuing this?

Jesus christ, just goddamn give him a break and reserve your judgments until the season is over (this goes to all you JC bashers)..

Disagreed. As the saying goes, even a blind pig can find an acorn. Sadly, you're all setting yourselves up for heartbreak. And BTW, I don't consider myself a "JC hater" - I was on his bandwagon for 3 1/2 years - and now it's time to hop off....you DO remember Heath Shuler, don't you????

So you want me to blindly hate our team's QB and wish for a change thinking that this is going to change the team overnight?

Yes, I do remember Heath Shuler, and I don't know why you even bringing him up. I'm not saying taht JC is going to throw for 400 yds every single game and take us undefeated all season. But I think he's a solid QB that has gotten some shitty fortunes for the past couple of seasons. He's the best option at QB, and if the offensive line protects him we will see him make plays like he did when we went 6-2 last season. Our team is still a run-first team with a very good defense. We don't need Campbell to put the team on his back every single time, we just need him to be a good QB and this is the last season he has to prove this. If he doesn't, he's gone and the team can start from scratch. Until them, you'll see me defending him from the JC-hating lunatics, and praising him when he does well (which I hope happens a lot this season).

Disagreed. As the saying goes, even a blind pig can find an acorn. Sadly, you're all setting yourselves up for heartbreak. And BTW, I don't consider myself a "JC hater" - I was on his bandwagon for 3 1/2 years - and now it's time to hop off....you DO remember Heath Shuler, don't you????

So... will you be rooting for him or against him this season??

Quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing the same flimsy excuse about his performances - too many changes in offensive coordinators/offensive schemes and philosophies - being regurgitated year after year by myopic Campbell fans. Flacco and Ryan changed coordinators/systems - look how THEY produced their first year

Wait, are you holding up Ryan and Flacco's stats last year as an example of why Campbell isn't any good?

Ryan threw for ~200 more yards, 3 more TD's and 5 more INT's. Flacco threw 300 yards fewer than Jason, one more TD and 6 more INT's.

The QB you can best compare to JC right now is probably a guy like Jake Delhomme. If you compare the first 30 or so games of both players, their stats are remarkably similar, with Jake owning a couple more wins than Jason. The major difference is Delhomme having a higher y/a and Jason having a lower INT%.

Both were on teams that were largely run-first teams with stout defenses and a speedster-mold WR as their main target. And those Panther teams had the benefit of Muhammad as a dynamite possession guy at the WR2 while we've had no legit WR2 for years.

Given that Delhomme turned into a pretty solid if unspectacular QB who was able to lead the Panthers to the playoffs many times and can win when he's got some talent to work with, I don't think this is such a horrible floor for a guy like Campbell. If he turns out to be even more of a player, so much the better.

I'm so tired of the anti-Campbell crowd.

Jason is our quarterback for the season. At minimum, deal with it. And if you are a real fan of the Redskins, you will support him. If you can't support him, find another team.

I'm so tired of the anti-Campbell crowd.

Jason is our quarterback for the season. At minimum, deal with it. And if you are a real fan of the Redskins, you will support him. If you can't support him, find another team.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I swear, sometimes I feel there are people here that want JC to fail.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I swear, sometimes I feel there are people here that want JC to fail.

Yeah for some it seems more important to be right than to win.