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GTripp0012 08-27-2009, 03:18 PM Do they actually run deeper than Tryon? You bet!
My thoughts on the matter here (http://redskinshogheaven.com/2009/08/redskins-might-have-legitimate-concerns-in-the-secondary.html).
Well, at the end of last year (last 5 games or so), the Redskins' pass coverage units collapsed. Certainly, lack of sacks were a factor in the collapse--and two TD passes against the normally reliable Carlos Rogers didn't help--but the Redskins at one point in the season were doing well at pass defense, and the sacks weren't concentrated in one part of the year, particularly. No, the Redskins pass defense failed due to it's coverage units, and the Redskins didn't really fix the problem in the offseason.
Your thoughts after the jump.
skinsfan69 08-27-2009, 03:28 PM No pass rush = no pass defense. But it's not like we don't have question marks. Rogers hasn't put it all together yet. He's played well in stretches but not a whole season. Hall played like shit in Oakland but seemed to play decent when he got here. I think Hall will bounce back and get to his playing level in Atl. Horton should be better but I'm really expecting Landry to start to play at a Pro Bowl level. Smoot is OK. Barring injury and an improved pass rush we should be good in the secondary.
roth74va 08-27-2009, 03:32 PM To me....it seems like your over-analyzing a bit, since the Redskins were a Top 5 defense last year, and should be even better this year. I did enjoy the article though, a very good read.
GTripp0012 08-27-2009, 03:34 PM To me....it seems like your over-analyzing a bit, since the Redskins were a Top 5 defense last year, and should be even better this year. I did enjoy the article though, a very good read.I think one of the main points I tried to make is that I didn't think we were a top 5 D, but all the same, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
joethiesmanfan 08-27-2009, 03:36 PM Barnes looked pretty good to me what do yall think?
roth74va 08-27-2009, 03:45 PM Barnes looked pretty good to me what do yall think?
Which game? First game not so good, second game I thought he was much better. Id say the same thing for Tryon as well, but its still preseason.
If we can stay healthy, I feel like our secondary is fairly solid. But if we have an injury or two, and Tryon/Barnes are forced into duty, things could get ugly quick. I dont like Smoot as a starter, but I feel like he does just fine as the 3rd CB. Hopefully Rogers calf isnt a lingering problem, it sounds way too similar to Springs issues last year. Horton is improving steadily, and Landry is a beast. Like Gtripp said though, Landry is the key and if we were to lose him its gonna be a long season.
GMScud 08-27-2009, 03:46 PM Good analysis. I do however think a much improved pass rush will help the secondary simply because opposing QBs will be rushed into throws (often times for shorter yardage), and hopefully the pressure will affect their accuracy as well. It may not make a huge difference, but it can't hurt.
firstdown 08-27-2009, 04:09 PM The offense might not be a dynamic downfield passing attack, and it might never be. But it enters the third preseason game with zero gaping holes.
Good read but you lost me right here.
SouperMeister 08-27-2009, 04:17 PM One thing that has bothered me about the D since Sean Taylor's death is that Landry hasn't taken ownership of the deep middle of the field. Compared to being at FedEX and seeing the whole field, TV coverage didn't do justice to how #21 took away the middle of the field. For whatever reason, Landry hasn't delivered enough signature hits and plays on the ball that make receivers/QBs think twice about testing his space. I want to see Kareem Moore get some time at FS, freeing Landry to play close to the line of scrimmage in his more natural SS role. I feel that should be the D's standard safety package on 3rd down passing situations.
FRPLG 08-27-2009, 04:26 PM The offense might not be a dynamic downfield passing attack, and it might never be. But it enters the third preseason game with zero gaping holes.
Good read but you lost me right here.
do explain our gaping holes?
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