Redskins' Secondary Woes

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Lotus
08-29-2009, 12:05 PM
I'm thinking and hoping that Blache is keeping his cards hidden and we see a different defense scheme-wise on Sept. 13 and following.

MTK
08-29-2009, 12:12 PM
Something tells me that wasn't our all-out defensive attack last night.

artmonkforhallofamein07
08-29-2009, 12:17 PM
To me the defense looked kinda vanilla. We ran the same blitzes we have seen all preseason. The coaches aren't game planning that much. We really need Carlos for the secondary to be better. We have to remember to that we went up against the best offense in the league last night without our number 1 corner. Our team looked good. we styed with those guys step for step and point for point. Our d did get a big stop at the end of the half. Kudos gentleman!

CultBrennan59
08-29-2009, 12:45 PM
sure carlos rogers didn't play, and deangelo hall got beat by randy moss, but still is good..after that, im a little sketch about our secondary..maybe we should bring in a vet like patrick surtain, and cut tryon.

RedTempleSkin
08-29-2009, 01:08 PM
sure carlos rogers didn't play, and deangelo hall got beat by randy moss, but still is good..after that, im a little sketch about our secondary..maybe we should bring in a vet like patrick surtain, and cut tryon.

Tryon played decent last night. In fact he a impressive pass break up on what I thought was a third down play. I'm not a big fan of his, but I don't see many vets that will offer more than what he does, if so they would be on someone else's roster. If you look at the way the secondary played, it did fine except for whoever paid on Moss. I think letting him go one on one with Hall was not smart. We did play without Rogers, he is a very good corner, maybe our best.

artmonkforhallofamein07
08-29-2009, 01:28 PM
My point is that Carlos is a bigger bodied cb and could have been able to play a little better against a bigger reciever like Moss.

RedBar
08-29-2009, 02:03 PM
Sounds like your problem is less with the analysis and more with the fact that I was the one bringing it.

No Gtripp sounds like your problem is more with this defense (or I suspect this coach). Thanks for the summary you are right I have not read All of your post on this subject didn't know it was a prerequisite to stating my opinion. I never said we were an elite defense. Oops I said we were a top five defense. As in:
1.) Pittsburgh 2.) Baltimore 3.) Philadelphia 4.) WASHINGTON 5.) New York Giants. (you can google that)

I never said we had elite talent, or that guys didn't get beaten, picked on or hurt last year. I never said we got a lot of sacks or any other stat you find important. I said when looking at this football team over the past few years you really had to play with the numbers to blame this defense for the teams woes (or you have to have an axe to grind.)
As far as the "bottom line" statistic when talking about defense there is only one that matters: points allowed. Point Blank Period. If your defense finishes third in that category and you finish 8 and 8 and miss the playoffs. don't start lecturing us about sacks or quarterback pressures or takeaways. Defense is Defense it is not Offense. It is great when Defense can help put points on the board but their primary job is keeping points off the board. This defense finished third in that category last year.

Find a new subject.

DBUCHANON101
08-29-2009, 02:07 PM
No Gtripp sounds like your problem is more with this defense (or I suspect this coach). Thanks for the summary you are right I have not read All of your post on this subject didn't know it was a prerequisite to stating my opinion. I never said we were an elite defense. Oops I said we were a top five defense. As in:
1.) Pittsburgh 2.) Baltimore 3.) Philadelphia 4.) WASHINGTON 5.) New York Giants. (you can google that)

I never said we had elite talent, or that guys didn't get beaten, picked on or hurt last year. I never said we got a lot of sacks or any other stat you find important. I said when looking at this football team over the past few years you really had to play with the numbers to blame this defense for the teams woes (or you have to have an axe to grind.)
As far as the "bottom line" statistic when talking about defense there is only one that matters: points allowed. Point Blank Period. If your defense finishes third in that category and you finish 8 and 8 and miss the playoffs. don't start lecturing us about sacks or quarterback pressures or takeaways. Defense is Defense it is not Offense. It is great when Defense can help put points on the board but their primary job is keeping points off the board. This defense finished third in that category last year.

Find a new subject.


Nicely done. :food-smil

CRedskinsRule
08-29-2009, 02:13 PM
No Gtripp sounds like your problem is more with this defense (or I suspect this coach). Thanks for the summary you are right I have not read All of your post on this subject didn't know it was a prerequisite to stating my opinion. I never said we were an elite defense. Oops I said we were a top five defense. As in:
1.) Pittsburgh 2.) Baltimore 3.) Philadelphia 4.) WASHINGTON 5.) New York Giants. (you can google that)

I never said we had elite talent, or that guys didn't get beaten, picked on or hurt last year. I never said we got a lot of sacks or any other stat you find important. I said when looking at this football team over the past few years you really had to play with the numbers to blame this defense for the teams woes (or you have to have an axe to grind.)
As far as the "bottom line" statistic when talking about defense there is only one that matters: points allowed. Point Blank Period. If your defense finishes third in that category and you finish 8 and 8 and miss the playoffs. don't start lecturing us about sacks or quarterback pressures or takeaways. Defense is Defense it is not Offense. It is great when Defense can help put points on the board but their primary job is keeping points off the board. This defense finished third in that category last year.

Find a new subject.

Would it be fair to say the Pats win in last night's game tied directly to their D's ability to put 6 points on the board? If your D doesn't make other teams pay for their mistakes, and risk taking, then you embolden other teams to try that risky long shot, why because they know our D won't make them regret it. I hope that changes this year.

SmootSmack
08-29-2009, 02:13 PM
No Gtripp sounds like your problem is more with this defense (or I suspect this coach). Thanks for the summary you are right I have not read All of your post on this subject didn't know it was a prerequisite to stating my opinion. I never said we were an elite defense. Oops I said we were a top five defense. As in:
1.) Pittsburgh 2.) Baltimore 3.) Philadelphia 4.) WASHINGTON 5.) New York Giants. (you can google that)

I never said we had elite talent, or that guys didn't get beaten, picked on or hurt last year. I never said we got a lot of sacks or any other stat you find important. I said when looking at this football team over the past few years you really had to play with the numbers to blame this defense for the teams woes (or you have to have an axe to grind.)
As far as the "bottom line" statistic when talking about defense there is only one that matters: points allowed. Point Blank Period. If your defense finishes third in that category and you finish 8 and 8 and miss the playoffs. don't start lecturing us about sacks or quarterback pressures or takeaways. Defense is Defense it is not Offense. It is great when Defense can help put points on the board but their primary job is keeping points off the board. This defense finished third in that category last year.

Find a new subject.

I agree. I really find it hard to put too much blame on the defense. Forcing more turnovers would be a nice bonus though.

Remember to try not to take things too personal though

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