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bedlamVR 08-28-2009, 04:39 AM What is quite interesting that if Kelly beats out Thomas for the starting flanker possition then Thomas will automatically fall to No.4. Because he will not start in the slot ahead of ARE .
That said I think Thomas will still see plenty of action and it would be nice to have 5 WR on the roster who are not just filling a uniform .
If Mitchell can latch on at No 5 and contribute something especially in the DREADED red zone then I will be happy ...
jdlea 08-28-2009, 07:35 AM and, besides devin, who's not a great example or a great WR, how many of those guys only had one good year of college?
i know TJ and smith and moss all started multiple years and had more than one decent year. MK had 3 years of over 800 yards i believe, BB had 750 his sophmore year, 1300+ the next year, redshirted, and i forget his senoir year stats, but that's 5 years in college football.
breaston started 4 years at michigan right? and had 7 200 yard games there. driver had 2000 yards at alcorn state, was mainly a track + field guy, got drafted in the 7th round and took until his 4th year to be any good (keenan mccardell took 4 years too if i remember correctly).
it'd be better not to have to wait 4 years to see if your draft pick is a total bust, since that's roster spots and money wasted, but that's what it looks like is going to happen with DT.
remember taylor jacobs? one college 1000 yard year, bounced around the league for 5 seasons, career stats: 37 for 384 and 2 tds. 2nd round pick too.
I think DT is a LOT better than that, but he's raw.
That's the only statement that isn't exactly true. Steve Breaston was mostly a return guy at Michigan and he played there for 3 years. He had seasons of 291, 291, and then 670 receiving yards. His 200 yard games were all purpose when he was killing it on returns. To me, he looked like he'd be another Desmond Howard, but everyone in the league was smart enough not to take him in the first or second round (he went in the 5th) and let him develop his skills as a wide out.
About Devin Thomas, I hope the guy is able to get onto the field and make an impact at some point in his Redskins career. As of now, I don't get why he'd plummet this far, but I guess coaches are seeing something I'm not.
Monkeydad 08-28-2009, 11:28 AM Checking out the replay of the Eagles/Jags game on NFL Network...
Seeing Deshean Jackson last year and Jeremy Maclin in this game makes me jealous. It would be so cool to have a nice passing game with contributing young WRs. I really hope it happens for us this year.
The young guys HAVE to contribute because they have no vets who can. Kevin Curtis is decent...but he's no #1 WR.
We have more depth at WR than they do. Plus Cooley blows away Celek and CP can make it through a season, unlike Westbrook.
Moss/Randel El/Kelly/Thomas/Mitchell are better overall than Jackson/Maclin/Curtis/Avant/Baskett/Brown.
Jackson and Maclin ARE great young WRs, but they had to come in and be the top guys because no one else could. Our young guys will be adding talent on top of an already solid #1/#2. Randel El is great in the slot and he'll get to return there this year. For as bad as he is on punt returns, he has actually been a clutch receiver for us when we need a first down.
BigHairedAristocrat 08-28-2009, 12:15 PM The young guys HAVE to contribute because they have no vets who can. Kevin Curtis is decent...but he's no #1 WR.
We have more depth at WR than they do. Plus Cooley blows away Celek and CP can make it through a season, unlike Westbrook.
Moss/Randel El/Kelly/Thomas/Mitchell are better overall than Jackson/Maclin/Curtis/Avant/Baskett/Brown.
Jackson and Maclin ARE great young WRs, but they had to come in and be the top guys because no one else could. Our young guys will be adding talent on top of an already solid #1/#2. Randel El is great in the slot and he'll get to return there this year. For as bad as he is on punt returns, he has actually been a clutch receiver for us when we need a first down.
youre out of your mind. the Eagles probably have the 2nd best receiving corps in the NFC (behind the Cards, of course). Santana Moss may be slightly better than Jackson NOW, but 'Tana's career is on the downside now and Jacksons' is on the rise. After the #1 slot though, its not even close. Their #2-5 receivers are better than each of ours.
Mitchell and Kelly have impressed in camp, but lets be honest here - they've impressed us because our expectations are so low because we havent gotten much out of any WR not named Moss in a decade. Yet what we've seen from Mitchell, Kelly and even Thomas in camp and in the preseason thus far doesnt even approach what the Eagles WRs (Minus Maclin) have demonstrated in real games.
Yeah, Maclin could end up being a bust, but theres a far greater chance he'll be better than any one of our 3 young guys. I'd take the Eagles receiving corp over ours in a HEARTBEAT.
GMScud 08-28-2009, 12:26 PM youre out of your mind. the Eagles probably have the 2nd best receiving corps in the NFC (behind the Cards, of course). Santana Moss may be slightly better than Jackson NOW, but 'Tana's career is on the downside now and Jacksons' is on the rise. After the #1 slot though, its not even close. Their #2-5 receivers are better than each of ours.
Mitchell and Kelly have impressed in camp, but lets be honest here - they've impressed us because our expectations are so low because we havent gotten much out of any WR not named Moss in a decade. Yet what we've seen from Mitchell, Kelly and even Thomas in camp and in the preseason thus far doesnt even approach what the Eagles WRs (Minus Maclin) have demonstrated in real games.
Yeah, Maclin could end up being a bust, but theres a far greater chance he'll be better than any one of our 3 young guys. I'd take the Eagles receiving corp over ours in a HEARTBEAT.
I was gonna respond to Buster, but you pretty much summed it up. I totally agree. Their receiving corps is signifcantly better than ours, and so is the guy throwing the ball.
Monkeydad 08-28-2009, 12:32 PM I was gonna respond to Buster, but you pretty much summed it up. I totally agree. Their receiving corps is signifcantly better than ours, and so is the guy throwing the ball.
Brown, Avant and Baskett have had the chance to prove themselves and fell short.
Kelly, Thomas and Mitchell have not yet had the chance, plus have the potential to be so much more.
Kevin Curtis is their "veteran leader", and Moss blows him away in every way.
I'll still take ours. True, Jackson and Maclin could be great as a 1-2 punch, but we have the chance to have more quality players at he position and have better depth than they do.
Throwing out the #1/2s...who would you rather have? Brown, Avant and Baskett or Kelly, Thomas and Mitchell? I'll take our guys.
McNabb will not be effective or starting by the end of the year anyways, he's been on a decline and the fans always revolt against him annually, but this Vick debacle will end his reign in the town that booed him on draft day.
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