"Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers"

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GTripp0012
08-27-2009, 12:21 AM
I doubt that Tripp. IF JC was perfect in the preseason everone would be saying he finally climbed the hill or turned the corner so to speak and will be more than ready for the season to start. What you have here are a bunch of guys that are comparing last preseason to this one and are seeing some similarities. 1 for 7 on a wet night doesn't mean the end of the world, but it still didn't look great, especially since we still can't do squat in the red zone.Good points, but it's not like we even tried to throw the ball in the red zone.

warriorzpath
08-27-2009, 04:14 AM
1) errant/dropped pass. Much like wild pitch vs. passed ball, it's two different sets of blame for something that is exactly the same outcome. You also mention that the defense had "nothing" to do with the incompletion, but there were two Steelers defenders in close proximity to the pass.

The play is not meaningless. It's just that, a (one) play. Who cares?

2)You already know that players who aren't expected to play much in the regular season need to value the preseason, way, way more than anyone who goes into the preseason with no competition on their job. For somebody like Campbell, it's just a tune up. What he gets from it is 100x more important than what he does in it. But for third stringers like Daniel/Brennan, what they do in it is arguably more important than what they get from it.

3) The preseason has never, ever been about first string quarterbacks. This is the fatal flaw in your argument.

Did you see Brady after his first interception in his first game back from his injury? He was pissed. And I should remind you that this was preseason and that as an understatement that he is a proven winner. If he cares about how he is performing in preseason and feels he has something to prove (even in preseason) then I think your #3 statement is definitely your fatal flaw in your argument.

And who cares? Everyone should. If campbell made a play earlier or even after this play, then yeah who cares cause he made up for it by making a good play - but he didn't. The best thing that he did for a majority of the game was throwing the ball away.

warriorzpath
08-27-2009, 04:20 AM
... and Brady's interception was just one meaningless preseason play - but by his reaction not meaningless to him.

You follow the lead of the leaders. Guys like Brady and Haynesworth, they are guys you follow and it certainly looks like to me, that they care how they perform on the field anytime, even in preseason.

DBUCHANON101
08-27-2009, 04:29 AM
... and Brady's interception was just one meaningless preseason play - but by his reaction not meaningless to him.

You follow the lead of the leaders. Guys like Brady and Haynesworth, they are guys you follow and it certainly looks like to me, that they care how they perform on the field anytime, even in preseason.

Because they are competitors, they want to win each time they step on that field. and the way they drive themselves even in these 'meaningless' games is one of the reasons that they are great when they do count.

DBUCHANON101
08-27-2009, 06:26 AM
In the summer months, the Redskins showed interest in Jay Cutler when Denver was shopping the disgruntled pro-bowler in early spring. After Denver’s new Head Coach, Josh McDaniels, turned down an offer from Washington that was identical to the offer made by the Chicago Bears, it was clear that other coaches and front offices were not convinced of Campbell’s future as a starting quarterback in the league.
The Redskins even showed interest in moving up in the draft to take USC’s Mark Sanchez. But the Redskins did not have the draft picks to match the Jets offer, and therefore, missed another trade opportunity to upgrade their quarterback position. This was after the Redskins approached several teams about a possible trade for Campbell, but no organization exhibited interest.
With the questions surrounding the reliability and the psyche of their quarterback, preseason is an opportunity for coaches and fans to see how Campbell will respond to the off-season mayhem.
Unfortunately, for Jason Campbell, the preseason has not pointed in the direction that he and his team were hoping.
After two preseason games, Campbell is 4/13 with 48 yards (a completion percentage of 30.8%) and has a quarterback rating of 43.1%. This puts Campbell in the No. 32 spot when compared to other starting quarterbacks’ numbers this preseason; and has Washington’s offense ranked 29th for yards, 30th for points, and 31st for passing. (By contrast, Kyle Orton’s completion percentage is 64.3% with an overall rating of 50.9%, Jay Cutler’s completion percentage is 56.5% with an overall rating of 79.1%, and Mark Sanchez has a completion rate of 50.0% with a rating of 82.3%).
There is no denying that Campbell must perform better this Friday when the Redskins travel to take on the New England Patriots. As one official in the Redskins organization remarked, “It would put a lot of peoples’ minds at ease, and I’m not just talking about the fans.”
Hopefully, for the team and Campbell, the second half of the preseason will prove to be more promising than the first. So, it appears that the need and meaningfulness of the preseason is still alive and well in Washington

GTripp0012
08-27-2009, 07:57 AM
Did you see Brady after his first interception in his first game back from his injury? He was pissed. And I should remind you that this was preseason and that as an understatement that he is a proven winner. If he cares about how he is performing in preseason and feels he has something to prove (even in preseason) then I think your #3 statement is definitely your fatal flaw in your argument.

And who cares? Everyone should. If campbell made a play earlier or even after this play, then yeah who cares cause he made up for it by making a good play - but he didn't. The best thing that he did for a majority of the game was throwing the ball away.Good. Tom Brady, preseason hero. I like the ring to it.

Some quarterbacks haven't been picked off in this preseason, but you know, that's alright.

Either you understand the relative value of one quarter of preseason performance, or you don't. There's really no middle ground here.

GTripp0012
08-27-2009, 08:04 AM
... and Brady's interception was just one meaningless preseason play - but by his reaction not meaningless to him.

You follow the lead of the leaders. Guys like Brady and Haynesworth, they are guys you follow and it certainly looks like to me, that they care how they perform on the field anytime, even in preseason.You could probably write a book with the things you aren't considering about preseason performance, but hopefully Campbell can throw a costly interception in this game, and then totally lose it so he can show real fans like you how much he cares.

joethiesmanfan
08-27-2009, 08:17 AM
Interesting discussion. The season is about to begin!!!!!!! Oh yeah, an don't forget the Skins tried to sign Vick because he is better than Campbell.

SmootSmack
08-27-2009, 08:24 AM
Interesting discussion. The season is about to begin!!!!!!! Oh yeah, an don't forget the Skins tried to sign Vick because he is better than Campbell.

They also tried to talk Dilfer out of retirement...as long as we're making stuff up.

CRedskinsRule
08-27-2009, 08:32 AM
last year, in the preseason "real game" we got demolished. We then started 6-2. I hope we light up the scoreboard. but its still preseason

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