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insideman 08-23-2009, 02:01 PM campbell does need to pick up his play, plain and simple. some people on here like to make excuses for him, the o-line was not perfect, the play calling was not perfect, the receivers routs were not perfect, the weather was not perfect and on and on. bottom line is things are not gonna be perfect, including campbell's play, but he does need to show some improvement. i know he hasn't played much and it's only preseason but he needs to step it up.
Its not just on here excuses are being made. How long can Zorn and Campbell keep it up with the excuses. Until the team has more discipiline and Zorns steps up to the plate and takes the reins, what are you really going to expect.
KI Skins Fan 08-23-2009, 02:18 PM I only care about winning. If Campbell can take care of the ball and manage the offense well enough for us to win then I'm fine with him as our QB. If not, he needs to go.
I have no illusions about his capabilities. Best case, he can probably play at the level Trent Dilfer did with the Ravens when they rode their defense to a Super Bowl win. Like that team, we'll need to win with our defense.
44Deezel 08-23-2009, 03:34 PM I only care about winning. If Campbell can take care of the ball and manage the offense well enough for us to win then I'm fine with him as our QB. If not, he needs to go.
I have no illusions about his capabilities. Best case, he can probably play at the level Trent Dilfer did with the Ravens when they rode their defense to a Super Bowl win. Like that team, we'll need to win with our defense.
Couldn't agree more. I'm emotionally indifferent to whoever lines up over center. I just want that person to be successful, woever they are, and agree that JC could do enough (or avoid enough mistakes) to win the Super Bowl assuming we have a dominant defense, running game and pass protection. I have serious doubts he can do much more and haven't seen anything from him to make me think he could actually "carry" the team on his back if it became necessary. But then again, we all know what happened to Dilfer after he won the Super Bowl. We've also seen guys like Brian Griese throw 19TDs against 4 INTs only to become a career back-up. There are only 10-15 QBs who are likely to be starters their entire careers. You have to be special to have that kind of job security.
Chief X_Phackter 08-23-2009, 03:49 PM Good point, the strong suit of the offense is the run blocking and Portis getting consistent positive yards...that was reassuring.
I did like the attempts down the field, that first one Kelly had beat coverage, JC waited a little late to let it go...next week will be crucial to see progress in the offense. We will get a chance to see if offense can get some rhythm. 3 points for the starting offense in two preseason games does not show the kinda growth I expect at this point.
I'm not thrilled with the output by the first team offense thus far either, but the reality is, it has only been four-five series against two of the best defenses in the league (one of them THE best). In a regular season game against these teams, I wouldn't expect to score on every drive. I'd expect some three and outs, a decent drive here and there, and not a lot of points. That is pretty much what has happened.
I think a lot of people are jumping the gun here. Let's see what happens in week 1 and then can get excited about it.
SirClintonPortis 08-23-2009, 04:04 PM I did like the attempts down the field, that first one Kelly had beat coverage, JC waited a little late to let it go...next week will be crucial to see progress in the offense. We will get a chance to see if offense can get some rhythm. 3 points for the starting offense in two preseason games does not show the kinda growth I expect at this point.
He threw it on his third hitch step, but short because he miscalculated Kelly's speed.
JWsleep 08-23-2009, 04:09 PM Couldn't agree more. I'm emotionally indifferent to whoever lines up over center. I just want that person to be successful, woever they are, and agree that JC could do enough (or avoid enough mistakes) to win the Super Bowl assuming we have a dominant defense, running game and pass protection. I have serious doubts he can do much more and haven't seen anything from him to make me think he could actually "carry" the team on his back if it became necessary. But then again, we all know what happened to Dilfer after he won the Super Bowl. We've also seen guys like Brian Griese throw 19TDs against 4 INTs only to become a career back-up. There are only 10-15 QBs who are likely to be starters their entire careers. You have to be special to have that kind of job security.
Great post. Of course, if JC could turn it on like Rypien did in 91, say, that wouldn't hurt either, with this D ;).
Counter-Tre 08-23-2009, 05:55 PM How many regular season games would you give Campbell to show he deserves to be the starter?
irish 08-23-2009, 06:01 PM Its not just on here excuses are being made. How long can Zorn and Campbell keep it up with the excuses. Until the team has more discipiline and Zorns steps up to the plate and takes the reins, what are you really going to expect.
Considering last season and what we have seen so far its pretty obvious that the Skins woud be incredibly lucky to have JC turn out like Dilfer. I dont think he will even get to that level. I think Zorn will stick with JC no matter what and it likely will cost him his job.
Lotus 08-23-2009, 06:18 PM JC is already better than Dilfer.
Let's look at Qb rating, shall we? Dilfer had a career rating around 70. Only twice in his career did he have years with ratings above 80. In the Super Bowl season of 2000, his rating was 76.6.
JC has a career qb rating of 80. Last year JC had a rating of 84. JC's worst rating was 76, the same as Dilfer's Super Bowl year rating.
So, as we see, in his worst year JC was better than Dilfer was on average for his entire career. JC's worst year coincides in terms of ratings with Dilfer's Super Bowl year.
Let's get some real perspective on JC, please.
GusFrerotte 08-23-2009, 06:37 PM Dilfer sucked, but had the stifling D. We do not have a stifling D.
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