2003 vs 2004: Quarterly Review

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SmootSmack
10-04-2004, 10:51 AM
Again, sorry for the typo. I've fixed the 1 turnover to 7 for the Giants game

MTK
10-04-2004, 10:53 AM
Smoot we had 7 TURNOVERS against the Giants, not 1, get it straight!!!

LOL ;)

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
10-04-2004, 05:25 PM
If your QB has to throw for 300+ yards a game to win you've got problems.

Brunell wasn't brought here to be a gunslinger, he was brought in to manage the game and to not make critical mistakes.

He's done his job for the most part, the running game on the other hand has not.

Add in turnovers, penalties and sloppy play and that all adds up to a struggling offense.

I agree that the turnovers, penalties, dropped balls, and crappy officiating has hurt our offense, but I still cannot say that Brunell has done his job. A HUGE reason why Portis hasn't been that effective is that we have NO, NONE, ZIP, ZERO deep-passing game. We've been dinking and dunking and opposing defenses have been able to sit near the line of scrimmage and crush Portis and anyone who gets a catch in the flats.

Gibbs' system uses the deep ball to pull defenses away from the line of scrimmage so the screens and running game works. We have no credibility with the opposing safeties.

Beemnseven
10-05-2004, 11:08 AM
I agree that the turnovers, penalties, dropped balls, and crappy officiating has hurt our offense, but I still cannot say that Brunell has done his job. A HUGE reason why Portis hasn't been that effective is that we have NO, NONE, ZIP, ZERO deep-passing game. We've been dinking and dunking and opposing defenses have been able to sit near the line of scrimmage and crush Portis and anyone who gets a catch in the flats.

Gibbs' system uses the deep ball to pull defenses away from the line of scrimmage so the screens and running game works. We have no credibility with the opposing safeties.

Ramseyfan is right on, here. Save for a few deep completions to Gardner against a Cowboy defense that slacked off and thought the game was won, nobody is scared about the Redskins picking up big chunks of yardage through the air. And Gardner was bottled up well by the Browns. In that situation, when a team looks at the film from a week before and is determined not to let someone like Rod Gardner beat them, it's Coles' job to step up, and make them pay for that stragedy.

Unfortunately, 7 catches for 116 yards or so just wasn't enough. I'm going go out on a limb to say this, and I know people aren't going to like to hear it, but...Laveranues Coles has not lived up to expectations yet. I know he's injured and playing hurt. But while he had good numbers last year, he has not been the dominating force that makes opponents tremble in fear for our passing game. He's part of the second-tier quality wideouts in the game, well behind receivers like Owens, Moss, Holt and Harrison. Until we get a playmaker on the level of those players, or close to it, (along with a quarterback whose job, everyone agrees, is to simply not make mistakes and just 'manage the game') our passing game will continue to underachieve.

MTK
10-05-2004, 11:27 AM
So last year at this time we were 3-1, this year 1-3. Just goes to show you can't tell much by the first 1/4 of the season. Last year we only won 2 games the rest of the way. Things can change quickly for the better and for the worse. Let's hope for the best.

rickmmrr
10-05-2004, 12:44 PM
I agree that the turnovers, penalties, dropped balls, and crappy officiating has hurt our offense, but I still cannot say that Brunell has done his job. A HUGE reason why Portis hasn't been that effective is that we have NO, NONE, ZIP, ZERO deep-passing game. We've been dinking and dunking and opposing defenses have been able to sit near the line of scrimmage and crush Portis and anyone who gets a catch in the flats.

Gibbs' system uses the deep ball to pull defenses away from the line of scrimmage so the screens and running game works. We have no credibility with the opposing safeties.

You hit the nail on the head.

illdefined
10-05-2004, 01:05 PM
I'm going go out on a limb to say this, and I know people aren't going to like to hear it, but...Laveranues Coles has not lived up to expectations yet. I know he's injured and playing hurt. But while he had good numbers last year, he has not been the dominating force that makes opponents tremble in fear for our passing game. He's part of the second-tier quality wideouts in the game, well behind receivers like Owens, Moss, Holt and Harrison. Until we get a playmaker on the level of those players, or close to it, (along with a quarterback whose job, everyone agrees, is to simply not make mistakes and just 'manage the game') our passing game will continue to underachieve.

you're not going out on a limb. people have been questioning whatsup with Coles drop off in performance a lot recently, since we haven't seen the separation he used to get as a Jet or an early season Spurrier 'Skin. w/o a deep threat, the defense gets on their toes, not their heels, and just lay the wood on Portis or Brunell or whatever underneath receiver.

without a power back that can consistently be productive against 8man fronts (and take the constant beating that comes with it ie. fumbles). the deep threat aspect to the Gibbs game gets even more vital. right now we have neither.

That Guy
10-05-2004, 01:17 PM
beem, he has lived up to expectations... he's not a top 5 WR, he's a top 10 WR, and he's been injured... if you're looking for a TO or moss, then you're looking for a QB to win the game, not just manage it, or else your wasting a lot of money on talent you're never gonna use...

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