Redskins vs Ravens Gameday thread

Yeah I have proof. My own damn eyes! My point is why aren't they over w/ the coaches and the players? I just don't like the vibe of it. It's like, "we're too good for the pre season and we're going to hang out w/ the owner and his butt buddy". Chris Samuels was out there and IMO he's more valuable than CP.

So they stood there the whole time, didn't do anything with the team... Please thats ridiculous. CP and Moss are out busting their tails at practice and with the team. DS and VC talk to most all the players, and I think you are reading way too much in to a normal scene.

What really pissed me off was CSN had a camera on Snyder and Cerrato before the game talking with Portis and Moss. Just the 4 of them. I just don't get why these two are not getting the reps in when they were two important starters on one of the worst offenses in the NFL. If Randy Moss is playing and running deep pass patterns then these two should certainly be on the field. They need the work! It starts w/ the head coach and he just doesn't command the respect of some players.

Its not that the head coach doesnt command respect, it that players like Portis & Moss know they dont have to answer to Zorn because DS will back them no matter what. Moss & Portis work for DS, not Zorn. The chain of command is screwed up and until the players kknow the head coach is in charge of the team no matter what (and get backed by the front office) the Skins will continue to struggle as on organization.

That said, I dont have a problem with vets not playing in the first pre season game.

Its not that the head coach doesnt command respect, it that players like Portis & Moss know they dont have to answer to Zorn because DS will back them no matter what. Moss & Portis work for DS, not Zorn. The chain of command is screwed up and until the players kknow the head coach is in charge of the team no matter what (and get backed by the front office) the Skins will continue to struggle as on organization.

That said, I dont have a problem with vets not playing in the first pre season game.


I don't think it's that big a deal w/ them talking to DS and Vinny before the game.

With that being said I don't thing Jim Zorn commands the respect other coaches might get. How could he? Snyder hires the coaches, brings in the players, etc. Snyder hired the coaches before Zorn even came in.

I don't think it's that big a deal w/ them talking to DS and Vinny before the game.

With that being said I don't thing Jim Zorn commands the respect other coaches might get. How could he? Snyder hires the coaches, brings in the players, etc. Snyder hired the coaches before Zorn even came in.

I agree Zorn doesnt get the respect other coaches get because other coaches know the front office has their back and they are in charge of the team. With the Skins the head coach isnt in charge of the team, the owner is, the players know it and hence any authority Zorn has is undermined. Thats not the way successful teams work.

I feel sorry for Colt. He waited many months for that opportunity and it did not go well for him. That's my negative.

No one got seriously hurt. That's my positive.

Everything else was a learning experience. I'd rather someone like Tryon learn lessons last night than have him learn them in the regular season.

Chill people, please chill.

Really? I actually thought the O Line looked pretty decent

I have the game recorded, and I went back and looked again. Not sure what game you guys were watching, but I felt like the Oline was pretty pathetic.

The 2nd drive for Campbell, 1st down had great pass-pro, and JC threw a strike to ARE for the 1st down. 1st and 2nd down runs, then the disaster of a line showed their true colors. It is 7vs4, they leave Cooley and Betts alone to handle a guy, and Rhinehart/Raback/Dockery are just "floating in open space doing nothing". When we have 7 guys blocking 4, Jason should have time to make a sandwich back there.....IMO pretty sad.

For two weeks I have read nothing but post after post that the O line was crap. The starters and 2nd team was really the bright spot last night but some of that might be from all the negative I've heard. Now, I guess I'm going to have and read post after post that Betts needs to go after one preseason game. I know we looked bad but its just one preseason game so lets give it a week or 2 and then assess where we are.

I have the game recorded, and I went back and looked again. Not sure what game you guys were watching, but I felt like the Oline was pretty pathetic.

The 2nd drive for Campbell, 1st down had great pass-pro, and JC threw a strike to ARE for the 1st down. 1st and 2nd down runs, then the disaster of a line showed their true colors. It is 7vs4, they leave Cooley and Betts alone to handle a guy, and Rhinehart/Raback/Dockery are just "floating in open space doing nothing". When we have 7 guys blocking 4, Jason should have time to make a sandwich back there.....IMO pretty sad.

I heard that...what I saw was no glaring standouts on the O-Line.

I don't think people are factoring the fact that we couldnt run as part of the O-Line's problem. It was 1.5 yards and a cloud of dust for Betts and then pass protection for short routes only.

That is by no means a good report card for the offensive line. We didn't even score points and if that's not bad enough for you then we barely got past the 50 yard line.

Saying "it's just a preseason game" goes both ways. We barely managed to get past midfield against another NFL team's preseason squad. Poor results if you ask me.

Firstdown I have been one very critical the last several weeks of the O-line and the FO plan to fix it. I thought the first team O-Line played pretty descent last nite. Protection was good. Cooley missed a block but that was it. The Right Side didnt get much of a push for Betts in the run game, but thats the Ravens run D, its been ass kicking for 10 years straight. Would like nothing better to see more improvement.

I heard that...what I saw was no glaring standouts on the O-Line.

I don't think people are factoring the fact that we couldnt run as part of the O-Line's problem. It was 1.5 yards and a cloud of dust for Betts and then pass protection for short routes only.

That is by no means a good report card for the offensive line. We didn't even score points and if that's not bad enough for you then we barely got past the 50 yard line.

Saying "it's just a preseason game" goes both ways. We barely managed to get past midfield against another NFL team's preseason squad. Poor results if you ask me.

Well no one did Tee but we appreciate your thoughts anyhow. :)