I think Jim Zorn is a great head football coach.

i really like the fact that Snyder didnt grab one of the old retread coaches. hopefully he will give Zorn enough time to find out if he can coach in this league

Sure, but if Vegas had odds on it, the money would be on Snyder to grab an old retread when the '09 season ends.

Zorn = 8:8 1st season
Gibbs= 8:8 1st season
...only time will tell

Gibbs: 8-3 in the final 11 games of his first season
Zorn: 2-6 in the final 8 of his

I think Zorn's a good coach, Not a Great coach, but Not a Bad coach.
This season, I'll be able to how good he really is. I think that he should throw the ball more, do more trick plays, and not be so Ned Flanders like.

He seems to have a "grand vision" of what he wants the team to look like - which a great coach needs. Here's to hoping it translates to success.

Excellent statement. But along with the grand vision, he has had excellent role models in mike holmgren and, I think, joe gibbs. He also has excellent resources available to him, in joe gibbs, jerry gray, and the things being the head coach of the washington redskins get you access to. Finally he has an owner who will put what tools he asks for in place.

If zorn doesn't succeed I think it will only be on his shoulders.

I think he will.

Gibbs ended his first season on the "up" escalator" - Zorn the other way.

Zorn has got to win footballs games this season to stay longer. He has some good qualities but he started to fade quickly in the second half of the season.

Also, due to his age, if he gets fired here, he may not get another HC chance anywhere else.

Gibbs: 8-3 in the final 11 games of his first season
Zorn: 2-6 in the final 8 of his

Gibbs 0-5 in his first.
Zorn 4-1.

We can play this game all day and still have to wait and see.

I love Zorn.

A lot of these assertions contradict each other. You can't claim lack of creativity on offense and then question Zorn's desire to turn Mike Sellers into a GL back...because he's never been a goal line back before. That's what creativity is, it's not necessarily about being unconventional, just about doing different things to try to maximize the value of your personnel. In this respect, I think Zorn is quite creative.

What evidence do you have to defend the claim that the Skins checked down more often than other teams? Speicifally, how are they different than the Dolphins or Chargers in this respect (outside of the misbelief that some teams use their backs aggressively, but when other teams do the exact same thing they are being too conservative)?

Just to throw a stat out there, the Redskins passing game was up to a yard per attempt more effective when they blocked with 6 as opposed to 5. So if you are wondering why the Redskins don't always use Portis as a receiving threat, I think that might be a good place to start. Not that you can't use both Portis and Betts in obvious passing situations, but if you do, you lose the ability to get one of your young receivers into the game in a critical situation.

I also think you are understating the value of the Betts injury on our offense. I'm really not the biggest Betts fan, and despite the fact that he does all the small things well, he doesn't offer anything that Portis doesn't, but when he went down, you lose a lot of trick play ability in the offense. Zorn was using them together in packages, but once you lose one of them, it's understandable that they moved away from these packages. By the time Betts came back for the Seattle game, you could understand how a team on a two game losing streak was not so worried about trying to get two running backs on the field together (especially since Kelly was healthy for the first time).

I was wathcing NFL Network a month or two ago and Solomon Wilcotts broke down Jason Campbell and said that the Redskins were almost dead last in the NFL in passes completed over 10 yards. He also showed several instantces where JC had the time to throw, had wr's open downfield but checked the ball down instead. But I didn't need him to tell me that cause I watched the games and already knew it.

I was wathcing NFL Network a month or two ago and Solomon Wilcotts broke down Jason Campbell and said that the Redskins were almost dead last in the NFL in passes completed over 10 yards. He also showed several instantces where JC had the time to throw, had wr's open downfield but checked the ball down instead. But I didn't need him to tell me that cause I watched the games and already knew it.

Oh boy the infamous Wilcots video. This has become like the Zapruder film...well now you've done it. Now you've subjected us to several pages of Tripp posts

Oh boy the infamous Wilcots video. This has become like the Zapruder film...well now you've done it. Now you've subjected us to several pages of Tripp posts

It's in the video!! It's in the video!!