Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals

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Monkeydad
08-06-2009, 03:54 PM
He brought intangibles to the table. Peyton and Archie.

Ha...I guess he DOES have the best staff of personal trainers out of all QBs in the league.

Maybe the Giants should be compensating Peyton and Archie...heck, Cooper too.

Lotus
08-06-2009, 03:59 PM
You may be tired of it but tell me it's not a HUGE reason why he received the contract that he did.

At the end of the day when people want to keep tossing out these stats about how bad he is, the one thing that trumps all is that ring.

Saying they won in spite of him just rings of "hater" to me. Of course he didn't win it all by himself, but he played a big role down the stretch in the playoffs and SB.

True true true.

I am not an Eli fan and I like to trot out his poor stats as much as anyone. But the point of the stats is to win and Eli has shown he can do that. The question every qb faces is, "Can he win a Super Bowl?" and Eli has already answered that in the affirmative. No one else in the division knows that about their qb.

Let me put this differently - the G-men know that Eli is not a world beater but they also know that, with him under center, they have a chance to win it all. Armed with this knowledge, they would have been quite foolish not to pay Eli and start all over again at qb from scratch.

FRPLG
08-06-2009, 04:00 PM
You may be tired of it but tell me it's not a HUGE reason why he received the contract that he did.

At the end of the day when people want to keep tossing out these stats about how bad he is, the one thing that trumps all is that ring.

Saying they won in spite of him just rings of "hater" to me. Of course he didn't win it all by himself, but he played a big role down the stretch in the playoffs and SB.

That ring isn't HIS ring. Their team won it. I agree it is a reason he got the contract. It isn't a good reason. Or even close to a good reason. They're rewarding him for be able to not lose the SB for them. Not for helping them win it in my opinion.

I'll go this far...absent their continued luck in putting together the best DL in the league they'll never win a SB with Eli at QB again.

joethiesmanfan
08-06-2009, 04:02 PM
Divine intervention that ball stuck to Tyree's helmet.

MTK
08-06-2009, 04:02 PM
True true true.

I am not an Eli fan and I like to trot out his poor stats as much as anyone. But the point of the stats is to win and Eli has shown he can do that. The question every qb faces is, "Can he win a Super Bowl?" and Eli has already answered that in the affirmative. No one else in the division knows that about their qb.

Let me put this differently - the G-men know that Eli is not a world beater but they also know that, with him under center, they have a chance to win it all. Armed with this knowledge, they would have been quite foolish not to pay Eli and start all over again at qb from scratch.

To this point in bold, would anyone today know or care about who Mark Rypien was if it wasn't for that '91 season?

People may get tired of the ring argument, but it's the one thing that people will remember above all else. 20 years from now are people gonna be saying "yeah but Eli's completion % was only 55%". F no.

MTK
08-06-2009, 04:06 PM
That ring isn't HIS ring. Their team won it. I agree it is a reason he got the contract. It isn't a good reason. Or even close to a good reason. They're rewarding him for be able to not lose the SB for them. Not for helping them win it in my opinion.

I'll go this far...absent their continued luck in putting together the best DL in the league they'll never win a SB with Eli at QB again.

Thanks for stating the obvious. I'm well aware that it's a team sport. Still, he's a part of that team and had just as much to do with winning it as anyone else.

You can't even give Eli credit for being a SB winner it seems.

Monkeydad
08-06-2009, 04:09 PM
To this point in bold, would anyone today know or care about who Mark Rypien was if it wasn't for that '91 season?

People may get tired of the ring argument, but it's the one thing that people will remember above all else. 20 years from now are people gonna be saying "yeah but Eli's completion % was only 55%". F no.

There are some SB victories where we do admit the team did not have a star QB. Teams with Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien (although he was amazing that season), Rich Gannon, Jeff Hostetler, maybe even Jim McMahon.

Eli falls into THAT group, not the list containing Montana, Favre, Elway, Steve Young and Terry Bradshaw.

Monkeydad
08-06-2009, 04:10 PM
Thanks for stating the obvious. I'm well aware that it's a team sport. Still, he's a part of that team and had just as much to do with winning it as anyone else.

You can't even give Eli credit for being a SB winner it seems.


So was David Tyree. What did he get for helping them win the SB? He got cut.

Being on a SB roster does not make you a great player.

MTK
08-06-2009, 04:12 PM
There are some SB victories where we do admit the team did not have a star QB. Teams with Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien (although he was amazing that season), Rich Gannon, Jeff Hostetler, maybe even Jim McMahon.

Eli falls into THAT group, not the list containing Montana, Favre, Elway, Steve Young and Terry Bradshaw.

I'd say he falls in the middle somewhere. He's certainly not in the Dilfer category.

MTK
08-06-2009, 04:13 PM
So was David Tyree. What did he get for helping them win the SB? He got cut.

Being on a SB roster does not make you a great player.

You certainly can't be putting Tyree and Manning in the same category of player.

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