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joethiesmanfan 07-30-2009, 01:49 PM Not cooperating with police is deserving of an arrest. You sound as racially-biased as Gates and the President.
If I am at home and I have shown the officer my ID that provs I live there, then I have cooperated. Stand outside for what? I protest i live here. Have not committed a crime. You made up a crime because you want me to step outside for what?
Slingin Sammy point to my racist arguments. Point by point. No matter what color the officers are I am looking at the arrest. Just because the other officers are black is not gonna make me say ohh?!! you can go to someone's home tell them to do something and if they dont do it you go to jail. What's the complaint. What law did he break is my only point.
CRedskinsRule 07-30-2009, 01:59 PM I hear what you are saying, but listen, if a police officer comes to your door, I think you have an obligation to be respectful. He was doing his job, and responding to an alleged crime. Once he had established that Mr. Gates was the legal resident, then yes he should back out. BUT, and I think this is important, Professor Gates could have chosen not to walk out. And just closed the door. but he followed him out, yelling and acting more like a guy (any ethnicity) "off the street" then a Harvard Professor. And he was told to "chill" several times. Really, if someone acted stupidly, I would have said Prof. Gates did. Now the officers could have, and probably should have, just walked away, with the famous line - "Nothing to see here" but they did not.
The fact that charges were dropped was as much of a political decision as a reflection of a lack of case or poor policework.
joethiesmanfan 07-30-2009, 02:11 PM He's definitely trying to follow his pastor for 20 years and trying to push the black community into a position of power and superiority over white Americans. He's just counting on these multi-thousand page bills will not be read before their passing...which is Congress' (at least the majority party's modus operandi.
Having a bi-racial president scares you? This is a teaching moment!!!! Misconceptions such as these keep our country from being as effective as it needs to be in a changing global climate. We have to be united.
joethiesmanfan 07-30-2009, 02:19 PM The fact that charges were dropped was as much of a political decision as a reflection of a lack of case or poor policework.
If a crime was not committed then no jail. He was a butthole, no crime there.
Private property no disorderly conduct. Crowley is not a racist he got offended by being called one took a man to jail and had no case. Unprofessional.
joethiesmanfan 07-30-2009, 02:24 PM No one is obligated to cooperate with the police. THE 5TH AMENDMENT
CRedskinsRule 07-30-2009, 02:26 PM No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
can you please highlight where we suddenly are not supposed to co-operate with police during legitimate investigations? Don't quite see it in this version of the 5th amendment
CRedskinsRule 07-30-2009, 02:36 PM If a crime was not committed then no jail. He was a butthole, no crime there.
Private property no disorderly conduct. Crowley is not a racist he got offended by being called one took a man to jail and had no case. Unprofessional.
So one was a jerk to police ( aka acting stupid) the other was acting unprofessional, (but I would argue that on scene he acted within the realm of professionalism, but I understand your statement). Nothing for the national media, and Al Sharpton or the President of the US to even be involved in.
JoeRedskin 07-30-2009, 02:51 PM I cannot believe this thread is STILL alive.
Everyone just chill - don't make me go JOEREDSKIN on your ass!
CRedskinsRule 07-30-2009, 02:52 PM Just food for thought from Cooley's training camp blog
The highlight of my day was the Cooley shorts. Last night the team held the opening meeting which is you basic introduction to work talk. Trainers come and discuss hydration, personal conduct is always a mention, we even covered how a conversation should go with a police officer when a player gets pulled over. You know, the really tough things in life. From there the meeting went on to cover our dealings with the media, which is where Z gave what I considered the quote of the night.
CRedskinsRule 07-30-2009, 03:00 PM I cannot believe this thread is STILL alive.
Everyone just chill - don't make me go JOEREDSKIN on your ass!
Hey, we aren't in the regular season yet, let it live just a little longer.
And please, don't talk about JOEREDSKINning someone like it really means anything :boxing:
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