Vick conditionally reinstated by NFL (updated)

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Giantone
07-28-2009, 04:47 AM
I would love it.................:)

Luxorreb
07-28-2009, 05:57 AM
I really don't have a problem with adding Vick. I think he'll end up in New England, Buffalo, San Francisco, Denver or Washington. Will the UFL fold now?

skins89moss
07-28-2009, 07:23 AM
If we sign Vick than Collins is out. Vick will be use on special plays only such as short yardage and goal line situations. He is always a threat to run as well as throw. This would be a good move for insurance purposes and give our opponets more to prepare for. Jason is our future but Vick would give us a added dimension.

MTK
07-28-2009, 07:29 AM
Here we go again! LOL
Campbell will never be the guy in DC as long as the media is concerned.. I knew they would have us in the Vick sweepstakes and honestly I wouldn't mind trying

Latest News and Rumors | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/) it out..

The thinking is that, if he were to land in D.C., Vick would not supplant current starter Jason Campbell, but that he instead would work in a Wildcat-type role for 2009, with an opportunity next year to succeed Campbell, whose contract expires after the season.

Hasn't Zorn been pretty adamant that he's NOT going to run any wildcat?

:doh:

irish
07-28-2009, 08:01 AM
Vick's biggeest problem is the postition he plays. If he was a RB, WR or LB I think he'd have teams lined up to sign but he's a QB and teams build themselves around their QB. I just dont see how Vick improves any team at QB.

SmootSmack
07-28-2009, 08:12 AM
I'd rather we trade for Tarvaris Jackson than sign Vick. I just don't see how he fits on this team. I only sign him if we can trade him (which we probably can't). And PFT comparing his indiscretions to Haynesworth's is ridiculous. People keep confusing the difference between Haynesworth's actions and Leonard Little's (though I agree he should have been banned for a significant amount of time) with Vick's as humans vs. animals. But that's not what it's about, what Vick did was premeditated. He didn't act out of sudden impulse like Haynesworth when he stomped Gurode.

gibbsisgod
07-28-2009, 08:54 AM
I'd rather we trade for Tarvaris Jackson than sign Vick. I just don't see how he fits on this team. I only sign him if we can trade him (which we probably can't). And PFT comparing his indiscretions to Haynesworth's is ridiculous. People keep confusing the difference between Haynesworth's actions and Leonard Little's (though I agree he should have been banned for a significant amount of time) with Vick's as humans vs. animals. But that's not what it's about, what Vick did was premeditated. He didn't act out of sudden impulse like Haynesworth when he stomped Gurode.And instead of taking responsibility right off the bat, He claimed he was innocent. He didn't fess up until he had no other option.

CRedskinsRule
07-28-2009, 09:14 AM
And instead of taking responsibility right off the bat, He claimed he was innocent. He didn't fess up until he had no other option.

For me, this is a really difficult thing. With the legal system as it is, clearly up front he was stuck between a rock and a hard spot. It's not like he could come out while the investigation/trial was ongoing and be forthcoming. However, now that he has done his time, it will be interesting to see what level of remorse, or change in thoughts, he displays. And truthfully, it probably will be almost impossible for us seeing it only through the media spotlight to know, for good or bad. So, what it comes down to, is can he do his job, if he can, than good luck to him. It will be hard for him either way, because he will always be associated with the past actions, regardless of what happens going forward.

artmonkforhallofamein07
07-28-2009, 11:34 AM
What would it hurt to bring him and take a look? See where he is. We can always cut him by the beginning of the season and not have to pay him a penny. See if the guy can even still throw a football. I don't think we will, but it would be right by the team to do at least a little do diligence on him. Maybe bring him in for a workout. Do we really think JC is our guy? The FO doesn't. I don't know if Jason can play fast enough for the West Coast offense.

There could be alot of upside to Vick. Or he could have lost it after spending 18 months in a federal "pound you in the ass prison". Who knows. If he came here I'd deal with it and let the team decide if he can still play football.

skinsfan69
07-28-2009, 11:47 AM
1) We don't know that they haven't contacted Vick's agent.

2) Does Vick really improve the quarterback situation in any of these places?

I mean, you have to weigh the positives (the talent) with the negatives (pretty much everything else). Picking up Vick for the reasons you describe would be the trademark of a bad organization.

Which is not to say that there aren't good situations for Michael Vick, just that, if you are the one of the first three teams on your list, you'd like to at least see what you have in Smith/Russell/Quinn first.

Some would say that a player or two of those have already busted, but to act like Vick is a better option, that's just being hypocritical. Don't replace your homegrown unproven talent with an external unproven talent that happens to be a felon.

Now if you are Pittsburgh, New England, or Carolina, be my guest. If you think you have a role for Vick, give him a shot. But don't take any of his crap trying to chase some mythical goal.

Vick isn't a better option for any of those teams right now. I'm not saying he should come in and start. But get him in there and let him sit and learn the offense for a year, let him run scout team and then let him compete the following year.

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