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mredskins 07-23-2009, 11:27 AM Meh, there's a lot more lucrative businesses out there. If he was in it just for the money he wouldn't be running a NFL team, and he certainly wouldn't spend money the way he does.
Hmmm... ok lets say he signs Albert to $100m (which he did) how much money does he make off that signing. Think jersey sales, ticket slaes, etc. It gets fans pumped up for the upcoming season which translates into dollars. I am not saying he signed AH just to make money but he sure didn't do it to lose money.
freddyg12 07-23-2009, 11:30 AM I think his last interview was in early April with Doc Walker (and Cerrato) to talk about the past off-season and the upcoming draft. He never (or very very rarely) speaks during the season but the off-season is different.
I think the perception of him is far from the reality. And he's undoubtedly grown as an owner and as a person in the past decade.
How so? Not disputing your info & insight, just wonder specifically what you mean. I think your statement here is at least a little ironic, considering that he's built his wealth w/marketing & pr businesses, yet he seems to be TERRIBLE at pr & marketing w/his own image!
I'm not saying he should be out in front of a mic all the time, but JLC had a good point about J. Jones. JJ does talk to the press more than needed, but overall he's accountable to the public & doesn't shy away from speaking to the public. I think Snyder's reluctance to talk to the press kind of fuels his reputation as a petulant, behind the scenes filthy rich dude that doesn't care what the fans think about his business decisions cause he knows he can sell out fedex w/a 5-11 Ole ball coach team.
Hmmm... ok lets say he signs Albert to $100m (which he did) how much money does he make off that signing. Think jersey sales, ticket slaes, etc. It gets fans pumped up for the upcoming season which translates into dollars. I am not saying he signed AH just to make money but he sure didn't do it to lose money.
Merch and ticket sales are going to be pretty consistent regardless of who is wearing a Skins jersey.
How much additional revenue do you think could be directly tied to Haynesworth being a Redskin? Would that revenue ever justify the price of the contract, let alone show in a profit?
SmootSmack 07-23-2009, 11:41 AM How so? Not disputing your info & insight, just wonder specifically what you mean. I think your statement here is at least a little ironic, considering that he's built his wealth w/marketing & pr businesses, yet he seems to be TERRIBLE at pr & marketing w/his own image!
I'm not saying he should be out in front of a mic all the time, but JLC had a good point about J. Jones. JJ does talk to the press more than needed, but overall he's accountable to the public & doesn't shy away from speaking to the public. I think Snyder's reluctance to talk to the press kind of fuels his reputation as a petulant, behind the scenes filthy rich dude that doesn't care what the fans think about his business decisions cause he knows he can sell out fedex w/a 5-11 Ole ball coach team.
Yeah I know there are a lot of people who think "Snyder's the GM anyway, why doesn't he just give himself the title and stop pretending like he's not."
I think the perception of him is that he's an overbearing owner to the point that he's even telling Zorn what plays to run and who to play. But the reality is that he's just like most other owners. The buck stops with him, but it takes many steps before it even gets to him.
How many owners really talk to the press during the season anyway? And what does he have to gain from it?
mredskins 07-23-2009, 11:46 AM Merch and ticket sales are going to be pretty consistent regardless of who is wearing a Skins jersey.
How much additional revenue do you think could be directly tied to Haynesworth being a Redskin? Would that revenue ever justify the price of the contract, let alone show in a profit?
IDK but I find it hard to beleive someone is not tracking the ROI on a $100 million purchase.
firstdown 07-23-2009, 11:46 AM Also, didn't we just try and trade the house and kitchen sink for Jay Cutler? I don't think he learned that from Gibbs. Every time you buy into the Snyder has changed line you wake up to read about us trying to trade two number one picks for Chad Johnson, or something else crazy. So I'm not convinced he's learned his lesson completely.
I thought the reason we did not get him was because we where not willing to trade the house and sink.
IDK but I find it hard to beleive someone is not tracking the ROI on a $100 million purchase.
Even if they are I can't believe AH's merch sales would come anywhere near justifying the contract. That's just not a sound investment if that's what they are thinking.
skinsfan69 07-23-2009, 11:51 AM Hmmm... ok lets say he signs Albert to $100m (which he did) how much money does he make off that signing. Think jersey sales, ticket slaes, etc. It gets fans pumped up for the upcoming season which translates into dollars. I am not saying he signed AH just to make money but he sure didn't do it to lose money.
I really don't think Snyder signs guys with a thought of selling jerseys. He wants to win and proves it by the money he puts into the team. Sure he's a business man but I think he signs guys so he can win first and market second. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, jersey sales are more for the skill guys, not lineman.
SmootSmack 07-23-2009, 11:53 AM I really don't think Snyder signs guys with a thought of selling jerseys. He wants to win and proves it by the money he puts into the team. Sure he's a business man but I think he signs guys so he can win first and market second. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, jersey sales are more for the skill guys, not lineman.
Right, and if it was just about selling jerseys we'd be going after guys like Mike Vick and Terrell Owens. Who really thinks he approved going after Hunter Smith and Derrick Dockery with the thought of "Hunter Smith jerseys are going to fly off the shelf!"
CRedskinsRule 07-23-2009, 11:56 AM Right, and if it was just about selling jerseys we'd be going after guys like Mike Vick and Terrell Owens. Who really thinks he approved going after Hunter Smith and Derrick Dockery with the thought of "Hunter Smith jerseys are going to fly off the shelf!"
I tell you what H. Smith may be my next Jersey. I was and still am excited that we got him.
As to the rest of the Jersey discussion, if just signing A Haynesworth brought in 100million in jersey sales, then the low end revenue teams would do that. ie Bills bringing TO in, that was a jersey signing. AH was just the best available, and DS sunk his money into him. Heres hoping it pays off bigtime for him. :food-smil
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