Redskins Select Jarmon in 3rd Round of Supplemental Draft

I have to agree with the majority. We got a loan for 9 months with 0 interest. There's a chance this guy could have fallen with his Sr. year. There's also a chance he could have skyrocketed to a 1st round pick. No one can say. I just hope he has the motivation and work ethic required for the NFL.

Either way, smart gamble by the front office.

This is completely wrong, there IS a third round pick in 2010, and we just USED it to pick Jarmon. Geez, it's been said again and again in this thread. We DRAFTED A GUY IN THE THIRD ROUND NEXT YEAR.

This is the EXACT same thing as us drafting Jarmon next year. Imagine in the third round 2010 hearing "Redskins select Jarmon, Defensive End from Kentucky." That's EXACTLY what we just did.


We did NOT give up anything. To judge this, you merely have to ask -- was he worth the third round pick. From what we heard so far -- he probably is.

Direct quote from me at the end of my post that you just replied to, "it all comes down to whether you think the guy is worth a 3rd round pick."
I understand what's happening. There is nothing incorrect about my statement. In April 2010 we will not be making a pick in the 3rd round. It will say selection forfeited to draft Jeremy Jarmon in 2009 NFL supplemental draft.

I dont really know why everyone is still arguing about this pick. We got a 3rd rounder a year early meaning that he will have one more year of experience by the time next years draft rolls around. I think you people just like to complain about the front office.

I have to agree with the majority. We got a loan for 9 months with 0 interest. There's a chance this guy could have fallen with his Sr. year. There's also a chance he could have skyrocketed to a 1st round pick. No one can say. I just hope he has the motivation and work ethic required for the NFL.

Either way, smart gamble by the front office.This, ultimately is true. You just have to judge, based on all the evidence available, which is more likely.

Is it more likely that his Sr. season would have set him up for day one status, or that it would have taken him off the draft radar entirely. We gambled a 3rd round pick on the fact that it is the former, and that we can use this year to develop him as a player.

I dont really know why everyone is still arguing about this pick. We got a 3rd rounder a year early meaning that he will have one more year of experience by the time next years draft rolls around. I think you people just like to complain about the front office.

Agree 100%


If we hadn't got him the same people would be complaining we need him why didn't they go after him.

This is completely wrong, there IS a third round pick in 2010, and we just USED it to pick Jarmon. Geez, it's been said again and again in this thread. We DRAFTED A GUY IN THE THIRD ROUND NEXT YEAR.

This is the EXACT same thing as us drafting Jarmon next year. Imagine in the third round 2010 hearing "Redskins select Jarmon, Defensive End from Kentucky." That's EXACTLY what we just did.


We did NOT give up anything. To judge this, you merely have to ask -- was he worth the third round pick. From what we heard so far -- he probably is.Well, it's not exactly the same thing. Jarmon was not in the 2010 draft.

If Jarmon had entered the 2009 draft as a redshirt junior, under his own choice, would we still have traded up into the third round after the Barnes pick to get him? Or would we have rated him more highly on the board than Barnes?

Because there are a bunch of guys that were given second round grades at that point. Barnes had a second round game from this team. There was probably at least one defensive lineman who would have had a higher grade than Jarmon at the pick.

If he had been in the 2009 regular draft, we would have got a much better idea of his value than the fact that a bunch of teams were willing to take 4th round flyers on him. He probably would have been a 4th or a 5th round pick in last year's draft.

Anyway, there's a huge difference between having a second round grade from the Redskins, and having been a likely second round pick. Every pick on the second day is made by a team who thinks they got a steal.

Anyway, like I said earlier, if we acutally do get a second round pick out of Jarmon, then using a supplemental third on him is a huge steal. But that assessment that Vinny had is a little bit higher than anyone elses assessment. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

It's important to remember that while looking at all the teams that put a claim in the 4th round is one way to judge his value, that still leaves two unanswered questions: 1) how many of those teams were willing to overpay by a round to bolster their defense this year? and 2) why did no team who won more games than us last year think he was worth a third round claim, if in fact he was a potential second round prospect?

I disagree.
The only team to consider him a 3rd round pick was the Redskins.
31 other teams agree with me.

Don't be a sucker for Ceratto's post pick spin...that he was a 2nd round grade crap....he has to say that to justify paying more than others.

The rest of the NFL considers him a 4th round pick...we just spent more because of need....something the Skins say they don't do.
Remember...they just pick the "best player available"....considering this was a draft of one....they got him.

I hope I am wrong about this and this guy ends up a starter, I am just on the fence whether we should gamble a 3rd rounder on this particular guy.
The rest of the NFL agrees with me.

Actually, one thing you can say about vinny's picks is that he isn't scared to go against the grain of what the nfl norm is. I don't think anyone had rinehart or tryon as 3rd & 4th rnd. picks e.g. And this year some observers thought that Glenn in the 5th was a reach. Some thought Colt was a reach even getting drafted.

That said, I don't think Vinny puts a "spin" on it per se, he tells the press that they pick guys because THEY (not other nfl teams) have them rated high.

For better or worse, vinny doesn't seem scared to make picks based on he & his scouts' research, rather than referring to whatever scouts,inc. et al have to say about where a player projects in the draft.

I can't remember if anyone brought this up in this thread?

Isn't it kind of a strange that Cerrato was the one and only GM to go on record after Jarmon's pro day that included reps from 18 teams to say that he thought he was a real solid prospect.

I wonder what kind of strategy he was using? Was it the tell everyone I like him so they will second guess themselves because most people think I am nuts strategy?

I can't remember if anyone brought this up in this thread?

Isn't it kind of a strange that Cerrato was the one and only GM to go on record after Jarmon's pro day that included reps from 18 teams to say that he thought he was a real solid prospect.

I wonder what kind of strategy he was using? Was it the tell everyone I like him so they will second guess themselves because most people think I am nuts strategy?

Vinny Cerrato is just stupid and only in America can a guy like him be in the position he's in. It's not what you know, it's who you know. He should just keep his mouth shut and not say anything. Then he goes on the radio and makes the guy sound like he's the next Reggie White. It's like he always tries to go out of his way to prove his point all the time.

I disagree.
The only team to consider him a 3rd round pick was the Redskins.
31 other teams agree with me.

Don't be a sucker for Ceratto's post pick spin...that he was a 2nd round grade crap....he has to say that to justify paying more than others.

The rest of the NFL considers him a 4th round pick...we just spent more because of need....something the Skins say they don't do.
Remember...they just pick the "best player available"....considering this was a draft of one....they got him.

I hope I am wrong about this and this guy ends up a starter, I am just on the fence whether we should gamble a 3rd rounder on this particular guy.
The rest of the NFL agrees with me.

I don't have a problem giving up the 3rd rounder next year. If they like the guy then so be it. What bothers me is the way Vinny goes about hyping guys up.