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budw38 07-16-2009, 11:03 PM Well outside of Haynesworth I really don't see anyone that is "sick". Montgomery, Carter, Wynn, Goldston, Daniels and Griff are all serviceable. They play well together. Orakpo and this new guy haven't played a down yet.
Sick , didn't their mom's tell them to wash their hands ???? You are right about big AL being the only dominant guy , but Monty and Golston should be better in yr 3 , and Orakpo / Jarmon looks better than JT . Griff should be well rested / fresh . If we can run, the ball convert 3rd downs and get into the endzone more often , we should be in the hunt for the NFC EAST TITLE < ? >
skinsnut 07-16-2009, 11:07 PM Well, well, well...I don't happen to think this is a "great pick"
It sure is easy to convince ourselves that paying a 3rd for a marginal mid rounder is a great thing.
Bottom line...we didn't need to use this pick now and our pressing needs for picks are LB and Oline and potentially QB and RB...
A 3rd rounder is key with all these roles, now we dont have one and we are pigeon holed into Oline for one of our only 2 top picks.....would I be pissed if we used a 3rd next year on a DE?....no...but I am unsure that this guy would stack up against typical mid round 3rd rounders. This guy may end up being nothing more than a backup. Maybe I am greedy but a 3rd rounder needs to be a starter in year 2 to be considered sucessful.
That is a lot to ask of this guy....it is certainly seeing the glass half full.
Don't let me be a downer....just drink the kool-aid and be happy.
Its just funny that some of you were saying you'd be pissed if we used a 3rd on here and are now rationalizing how great it is.
I am unhappy about using a 3rd on this guy...I would have even been a bit squirly about a 4th...but I think that would have been fair.
I think the thing I am pissed the most is that we continue to go into drafts without our top 3 picks year after year.
ethat001 07-16-2009, 11:17 PM So in the last 7 drafts, we've had 3 third round draft picks:
2003 Derrick Dockery
2004 Chris Cooley
2008 Chad Rhinehart
If Rhinehart works out, I guess Jarmon has got big shoes to fill. Hope he lives up to it.
Lotus 07-16-2009, 11:18 PM Well, well, well...I don't happen to think this is a "great pick"
It sure is easy to convince ourselves that paying a 3rd for a marginal mid rounder is a great thing.
Bottom line...we didn't need to use this pick now and our pressing needs for picks are LB and Oline and potentially QB and RB...
A 3rd rounder is key with all these roles, now we dont have one and we are pigeon holed into Oline for one of our only 2 top picks.....would I be pissed if we used a 3rd next year on a DE?....no...but I am unsure that this guy would stack up against typical mid round 3rd rounders. This guy may end up being nothing more than a backup. Maybe I am greedy but a 3rd rounder needs to be a starter in year 2 to be considered sucessful.
That is a lot to ask of this guy....it is certainly seeing the glass half full.
Don't let me be a downer....just drink the kool-aid and be happy.
Its just funny that some of you were saying you'd be pissed if we used a 3rd on here and are now rationalizing how great it is.
I am unhappy about using a 3rd on this guy...I would have even been a bit squirly about a 4th...but I think that would have been fair.
I think the thing I am pissed the most is that we continue to go into drafts without our top 3 picks year after year.
I have the same concern. However, we still have the two best picks - at least we didn't spend one of them. Since we now have a surplus of defensive linemen as well, maybe we can pick up an extra (if very low) pick in a trade.
roth74va 07-16-2009, 11:26 PM I like this move. We are essentially redshirting him, I look at him as a 2010 third rounder that we get to have for an extra year to get a head start on his development. And if he actually gets some decent pt this season and gets off to a good start then even better.
/agree
Ruhskins 07-16-2009, 11:27 PM Well, well, well...I don't happen to think this is a "great pick"
It sure is easy to convince ourselves that paying a 3rd for a marginal mid rounder is a great thing.
Bottom line...we didn't need to use this pick now and our pressing needs for picks are LB and Oline and potentially QB and RB...
A 3rd rounder is key with all these roles, now we dont have one and we are pigeon holed into Oline for one of our only 2 top picks.....would I be pissed if we used a 3rd next year on a DE?....no...but I am unsure that this guy would stack up against typical mid round 3rd rounders. This guy may end up being nothing more than a backup. Maybe I am greedy but a 3rd rounder needs to be a starter in year 2 to be considered sucessful.
That is a lot to ask of this guy....it is certainly seeing the glass half full.
Don't let me be a downer....just drink the kool-aid and be happy.
Its just funny that some of you were saying you'd be pissed if we used a 3rd on here and are now rationalizing how great it is.
I am unhappy about using a 3rd on this guy...I would have even been a bit squirly about a 4th...but I think that would have been fair.
I think the thing I am pissed the most is that we continue to go into drafts without our top 3 picks year after year.
While you are entitled to your opinion, I think that a 3rd rounder o-lineman next year would not automatically fix everything. Personally I think next year we need to pick an offensive tackle/guard in the first round, and sign a solid young free agent lineman. Furthermore, we need to see how the likes of Heyer, Rinehart, Jeremy Bridges, and Mike Williams are going to work out. Plus, I think between Scott Burley and Edwin Williams you are bound to find a diamond in the rough (since apparently Maryland is slowly becoming a good training ground for offensive lineman :) )
PS: I don't think this is a GREAT pick, but I think it is worth the risk. I mean look at Baltimore and how Jared Gaither worked out? (Maryland, hollah!)
BaltimoreSkins 07-16-2009, 11:47 PM While you are entitled to your opinion, I think that a 3rd rounder o-lineman next year would not automatically fix everything. Personally I think next year we need to pick an offensive tackle/guard in the first round, and sign a solid young free agent lineman. Furthermore, we need to see how the likes of Heyer, Rinehart, Jeremy Bridges, and Mike Williams are going to work out. Plus, I think between Scott Burley and Edwin Williams you are bound to find a diamond in the rough (since apparently Maryland is slowly becoming a good training ground for offensive lineman :) )
PS: I don't think this is a GREAT pick, but I think it is worth the risk. I mean look at Baltimore and how Jared Gaither worked out? (Maryland, hollah!)
.... and this year hope our defense gives our o-lone a short field everytime!
skinsnut 07-16-2009, 11:49 PM PS: I don't think this is a GREAT pick, but I think it is worth the risk. I mean look at Baltimore and how Jared Gaither worked out? (Maryland, hollah!)
I really think because this one supplemental guy is a success story that we overpaid for this guy.
Also,
We have lost a bunch of value with this guy since he doesn't have any playbook knowledge at all....he has lost some significant rookie prep time and knowledge
DBUCHANON101 07-16-2009, 11:55 PM I really think because this one supplemental guy is a success story that we overpaid for this guy.
Also,
We have lost a bunch of value with this guy since he doesn't have any playbook knowledge at all....he has lost some significant rookie prep time and knowledge
Wasnt like he was going to start anyways. he can learn from Carter,Daniels and Wynn. Then he can work his way into the rotation.
SFREDSKIN 07-16-2009, 11:57 PM Kudos to the FO for pulling a ballsy move on an area of need. This guy could have gone on the 2nd round during next years draft, there's no difference getting him now than next year, he will have one more year of experience by 2010. This guy has the build of a Dexter Manley/Charles Mann (slightly shorter) and could be an impact player down the road.
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