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I've got a good feeling about this year. Yeah I know it's easy to feel good about things in July, but just call it a hunch. I'm feeling something special, and no I haven't been drinking.
I have a good feeling as well........but the difference is I don't have to Sell myself on it as I did with Spurrier
Play like a franchise qb and I'll pay you like it! AWESOME
skinsfan69 07-13-2009, 08:28 PM And the quarterback who was found to be most similar to Campbell, using his accuracy score...well, you guys will like this:
Jay Cutler. Almost identical in accuracy last year.
What the stat doesn't tell you is that JC probably completed and attempted more passes under 10 yards than anyone in the NFL. And I bet JC attempted and competed fewer passes over 10 yards than anyone. Bottom line JC needs to stop being a game manager and take more chances so the offense has more production and scores more points. If he does that, and the guys around him play better then he'll be just fine.
Lotus 07-13-2009, 09:00 PM I've got a good feeling about this year. Yeah I know it's easy to feel good about things in July, but just call it a hunch. I'm feeling something special, and no I haven't been drinking.
I feel the same.
Gmanc711 07-13-2009, 09:00 PM I feel similar in that expectations are low and we finally have some stability. Not much change over the offseason(minus AH) is a good thing IMO.
I guess I have that kind of feeling. I would not be shocked if we went 7-9, I would not be shocked if we went 11-5. I think we have the potential to have one of the top 3 defenses in the league, I really do. Our offense is a huge question mark. I still worry greatly about our line, and dont think we did enough to address it. I love the Dockery signing for the longterm of the team (and I'm a huge Dock guy)... but I dont really know that he is that much of an upgrade over Kendall.
djnemo65 07-13-2009, 09:08 PM Excellent read. Really encapsulates what makes Zorn such a diamond in the bromide spewing world of NFL coaches.
53Fan 07-13-2009, 09:23 PM I like Zorn and I like the direction this team is going. I think a lot of people are going to be surprised....... and it's going to feel so good!
GTripp0012 07-13-2009, 09:26 PM What the stat doesn't tell you is that JC probably completed and attempted more passes under 10 yards than anyone in the NFL. And I bet JC attempted and competed fewer passes over 10 yards than anyone. Bottom line JC needs to stop being a game manager and take more chances so the offense has more production and scores more points. If he does that, and the guys around him play better then he'll be just fine.Well, empirically, Campbell's average pass traveled not as far as Cutler's. Specifically, in the second half of the year, Campbell's average pass distance declined, due to all the reasons we've been complaining about since November.
So, no, he didn't dink and dunk more than anyone in the NFL. Not even close. But there's evidence that the Redskins tried to limit the amount of downfield passes Campbell threw once rushers started getting to him before the passes got off.
As to whether or not that made his accuracy, well, consider why that happened. It wasn't because the throws were getting less difficult.
an23dy 07-13-2009, 09:52 PM Football Outsiders came out with a new stat called "accurate pass rate" this year, which is defined as the percentage of passes not marked as "thrown ahead" "thrown behind" "overthrown" or "underthrown".
Campbell was 7th in the NFL last season with an 85.7% accuracy rate. He was also the quarterback most victimized by drops, 39 times. Moss, Randle El, and surprisingly, Portis were the biggest culprits. Moss was second in the NFL in drops behind Braylon Edwards, although, far behind Edwards and he wasn't in the top ten in terms of drop percentage (though Randle El was). Campbell was also (excluding only J. Garcia, who voluntarily runs into pressure) the most valuable passer in the league when he was pressured last year.
None of this says anything we didn't already know about Campbell, just further reinforces it.
That's interesting, I'd like to see those numbers. How they calculate them and especially where everybody is ranked. Did you buy the Football Outsiders Almanac or was the info some place else?
ethat001 07-13-2009, 10:16 PM Campbell was 7th in the NFL last season with an 85.7% accuracy rate. He was also the quarterback most victimized by drops, 39 times. Moss, Randle El, and surprisingly, Portis were the biggest culprits. Moss was second in the NFL in drops behind Braylon Edwards, although, far behind Edwards and he wasn't in the top ten in terms of drop percentage (though Randle El was). Campbell was also (excluding only J. Garcia, who voluntarily runs into pressure) the most valuable passer in the league when he was pressured last year.
Great work GTripp -- great stats!! That's why I come to these mesg boards, you guys get info I haven't seen or heard anywhere else.
I also completely agree that he's inflated these stats by dumping balls off, BUT it still says that he can still throw an accurate ball. I'm also surprised we had so many drops -- S.Moss has got to work on it -- I hope the 2nd year trio (DT/MK/FD) can start catching balls to help him out.
As always, I'm hopeful for the season. I just wish there weren't always so many IF's. IF our OL stays healthy, IF our WR's actually play, IF our QB starts throwing deep, IF Rak can play OLB, IF Portis can stay healthy..
GTripp0012 07-13-2009, 10:20 PM That's interesting, I'd like to see those numbers. How they calculate them and especially where everybody is ranked. Did you buy the Football Outsiders Almanac or was the info some place else?Bought the Almanac.
I can't post their stuff online in anything but an abbreviated form, so with that in mind, I'll throw out the top ten in QB Accuracy:
1. Brees 90.2%
2. P. Manning 87.0%
3. Favre 86.7%
4. Warner 86.5%
5. Garcia 86.0%
6. Cutler 85.8%
7. Campbell 85.7%
8. Delhomme 84.7%
9. Cassel 84.6%
10. Pennington 84.5%
League ave is listed at 82.6%
Other NFC East QBs:
19. Romo 81.9%
23. McNabb 81.2%
26. Manning 80.8%
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