Faulk's top 5 TE'S NO COOLEY!!!!!

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skinsfaninok
07-08-2009, 02:39 AM
Gonzalez should be in the top 5, but Dallas Clark should be out. He is a product of the system just as Edgerin James was. The skins are so underrated (Especially in Oklahoma)... I have seen maybe 2 Skins fans here in 8 years. You would think that this organization has never won anything. Last time I checked we have won 3 Superbowls and have played in 5.

DBUCHANON101
07-08-2009, 02:58 AM
Gonzalez should be in the top 5, but Dallas Clark should be out. He is a product of the system just as Edgerin James was. The skins are so underrated (Especially in Oklahoma)... I have seen maybe 2 Skins fans here in 8 years. You would think that this organization has never won anything. Last time I checked we have won 3 Superbowls and have played in 5.

I never understood the 'system' player or product of a system guy.
Each team has their own system, Isnt that the coach's job? to have his players in the best position to maximize their talents and help their team win.

DBUCHANON101
07-08-2009, 03:05 AM
Gonzalez should be in the top 5, but Dallas Clark should be out. He is a product of the system just as Edgerin James was. The skins are so underrated (Especially in Oklahoma)... I have seen maybe 2 Skins fans here in 8 years. You would think that this organization has never won anything. Last time I checked we have won 3 Superbowls and have played in 5.

Try bein a Skins fan in Saint country

an23dy
07-08-2009, 03:19 AM
I never understood the 'system' player or product of a system guy.
Each team has their own system, Isnt that the coach's job? to have his players in the best position to maximize their talents and help their team win.

What people mean by a system guy is you can plug anybody in there and they'll do just as good. They're trying to say there's nothing special about Dallas Clark and that another player would do better if Peyton were throwing him the ball and there were good plays and other receivers to allow him to get open. I disagree, I think Dallas Clark is real good, he makes a lot of tough catches. I think Cooley should be ahead of Daniels, but most people would say Daniels put up better stats last year, although the difference is minimal. Cooley had a bad year last year, a lot was out of his control, had to help block more bc of the bad o-line, limited playbook, receivers weren't that good last year, but other than a few extra fumbles Cooley made tough catches and was tough in getting YAC and did what he normally does but his numbers were worse bc of things out of his control, the players and system around him.

Anybody think Fred Davis will ever crack this list? I think he has a chance with another team in a few years, but with us I think he's just gonna sit behind Cooley while he's here.

DBUCHANON101
07-08-2009, 03:53 AM
What people mean by a system guy is you can plug anybody in there and they'll do just as good. They're trying to say there's nothing special about Dallas Clark and that another player would do better if Peyton were throwing him the ball and there were good plays and other receivers to allow him to get open. I disagree, I think Dallas Clark is real good, he makes a lot of tough catches. I think Cooley should be ahead of Daniels, but most people would say Daniels put up better stats last year, although the difference is minimal. Cooley had a bad year last year, a lot was out of his control, had to help block more bc of the bad o-line, limited playbook, receivers weren't that good last year, but other than a few extra fumbles Cooley made tough catches and was tough in getting YAC and did what he normally does but his numbers were worse bc of things out of his control, the players and system around him.

Anybody think Fred Davis will ever crack this list? I think he has a chance with another team in a few years, but with us I think he's just gonna sit behind Cooley while he's here.

I think Dallas Clark would do well in any offense. to say if we pulled him out of indy he wouldnt be as good is kindof crazy IMO.

DCtoAZ
07-08-2009, 04:00 AM
I think we will see more of Fred Davis that you think .. I think some sets of 2 TE's are in the near future .. Davis is a special player with great hands .. I love cooley but this kid needs a shot ... who says we can't have 2 TE's play a vital role in our offense ?? why the hell not ...

DCtoAZ
07-08-2009, 04:01 AM
oh yeah and Cooley should def be on the top 5 list over Clark and Daniels ...

HAIL CAPTAIN CHAOS

DBUCHANON101
07-08-2009, 04:05 AM
The WCO uses many 2 TE sets. Davis will be fine. Word is that he did well in the OTA's. last i heard anyways.

Chico23231
07-08-2009, 05:58 AM
Tony Gonzalez
Antonio Gates
Jason Witten
I can completely understand the top 3.....but there is no way in hell I would take Owen Daniels and Dallas Clark ahead of Cooley....

MTK
07-08-2009, 06:23 AM
SHOCKER...not. News flash, peoples top five is subjective. It usually is what that individual believes is his or hers top five...and most often it's their favorite players not based off of talent or statistics.

Also I'm betting he's making his judgement off of last yrs performance. Cooley's worst yr.

Career highs in catches and yards and it's his worst year?

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