Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell

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Giantone
07-03-2009, 04:49 PM
When we no longer need a tall receiver, the rants will end.


.........how tall is Steve Smith of the Panthers?

Lotus
07-03-2009, 05:04 PM
.........how tall is Steve Smith of the Panthers?

No one denies that the diminutive Smith is good. But when the Panthers want to throw the jump-ball fade in the red zone, they have several other, larger targets. Leaving aside Kelly and Thomas, who are not yet proven, to whom do the Redskins throw the jump-ball fade? Moss and Randle El have both proven that they are too short for the task.

Lotus
07-03-2009, 05:06 PM
I hope everyone out there believes the same thing,they will be surprised!The Giants beat some good teams last year "WITHOUT BURRESS"...yes I said without Burress,now I'm not denying that the Giants will miss him but I think they will miss Toomer more.He was more of someone Eli could count on.People said that after (first) Tiki and then Shockey left Eli would fold...didn't happen and the same will happen this year .There will be situations you would love to have Burress and Toomer both back but I agaree it's time to see if what we have can step up and play.Lets not forget the otherside of the ball either.......games are just not lost or won by just the O only.Defense is why Eli won some of those game and is why Jason lost some of those games,it's a team sport,I still think you'll see NY go deep more often to stop the 8"in the box" theory and the run game again will surprise some people...Ware is good.

To stop the 8-in-the-box, you need not just throw deep, you need a deep threat that teams will consistently respect. Who on the Giants is that respected threat? If you say Hixon, Smith, or Manningham, you will just make me laugh.

53Fan
07-03-2009, 05:12 PM
.........how tall is Steve Smith of the Panthers?

Are you saying Plaxico's height didn't help? Funny ya'll drafted Nicks 6-1 then drafted Barden 6-6 in the 3rd. Height didn't have anything to do with it? :yeahright

Dirtbag59
07-03-2009, 05:19 PM
True and McNabb doesn't get the credit he deserves. Its always Peyton and Brady..But McNabb has done it with no weapons besides Westbrook who can't stay healthy. I am a skins fan..But I have respect for McNabb. The best QB in the NFC East..If not the NFC!!

But the thing that is the difference between ELI vs Jason is..Last year was JC's first year as a starter and he has been in a diff offense every year..Its the opposite for ELI. So imagine if Jason Campbell had started those years when Brunell was here (stinking it up). He would be a better QB now..

Brady also did it three times with a comparable arsenal to McNabb's receiving core. Thats part of the reason he's gotten a reputation in that he not only won three Super Bowls but he did it without a top tier Reciever. Ironically when he got a top flight receiving core he lost the Super Bowl.

irish
07-03-2009, 05:25 PM
Super Bowl vs No Super Bowl.


I need to see a Super Bowl god damn it!

Super Bowl?! How about JC getting to the playoffs.

skindeep
07-03-2009, 09:40 PM
good thread. jc stats just show a superbowl in his future, provided stability. a few plays here and there, we would have been in the playoffs. granted that

skindeep
07-03-2009, 09:42 PM
granted thats jc job. so with that i see a great chance of burgandy and gold in febuary.

GMScud
07-04-2009, 12:01 AM
I hope everyone out there believes the same thing,they will be surprised!The Giants beat some good teams last year "WITHOUT BURRESS"...yes I said without BurressI,now I'm not denying that the Giants will miss him but I think they will miss Toomer more.He was more of someone Eli could count on.People said that after (first) Tiki and then Shockey left Eli would fold...didn't happen and the same will happen this year .There will be situations you would love to have Burress and Toomer both back but I agaree it's time to see if what we have can step up and play.Lets not forget the otherside of the ball either.......games are just not lost or won by just the O only.Defense is why Eli won some of those game and is why Jason lost some of those games,it's a team sport,I still think you'll see NY go deep more often to stop the 8"in the box" theory and the run game again will surprise some people...Ware is good.

Really dude? You guys went 1-4 without Burress, and in those 5 games, Eli only threw 1 TD to a WR. After Plax's suspension, Eli went 0-4 in the last 4 games of the season with ZERO TDs to WR. BTW, Toomer was healthy for all of those games. So please tell me why Eli will miss Toomer more than Plax. Seriously. Know your own team at least.

NYCskinfan82
07-04-2009, 11:12 AM
I've grown to like Eli he works good in his system, i beleive JC in the same system for the 2nd yr will be much better but i beleive his 3rd yr will be the year althought i do beleive we could make the SB this year.

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