DBUCHANON101
07-06-2009, 11:30 PM
Putting Campbell in Flacco's spot, Campbell would have taken the Ravens to the Superbowl. Flacco who was 13 of 30 in the Championship game w/ 2 INT's and No TD's.
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Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The PreseasonDBUCHANON101 07-06-2009, 11:30 PM Putting Campbell in Flacco's spot, Campbell would have taken the Ravens to the Superbowl. Flacco who was 13 of 30 in the Championship game w/ 2 INT's and No TD's. :yeahright DBUCHANON101 07-06-2009, 11:32 PM JC couldnt even get us to the PLAYOFFS. but a backup did. Now he can take another team to the SB.. this is too much Ruhskins 07-06-2009, 11:33 PM i think you need to wake up and stop dreaming and start seeing reality there Ruhski, lets face it im the realistic person, your the optimistic person...Your one of those people that think "Jasons only been in the offense for one year and has changed coordinators for 9 years or whatever, He'll do great this year cause he's in year two of zorns offense" Ya let me tell you whats gonna happen, the same stuff from last year, you think drew brees going from san diegos offense to new orleans he was saying we'll im switching offenses so im gonna take a few steps back this year cause im switching offenses, you think roethlisberger said that when whisenhunt left, how bout matt ryan going from college to the atlanta, how bout flacco going from Division 2 to the starting QB of the Ravens, Eli switched coordinators midway through 06 and still made the playoffs, and one the super bowl the next year.....i could go on and on.. do you see now why i dont like campbell?!? And you say i need to consider my team, I've been with this team from Kent cook to Snyder, the thing that needs to change the most is snyder but that isn't gonna happen and yes ive wished for even worse than an injury on him, but the next thing that needs to change is the QB every team starts and ends with the QB and Jasons our hole in the dam that i dont see closing up any time soon....now as for me wishing for an injury on him, I mean sure thats bad (i wish for tom brady to get injured every year and see what thats done for me other than last year), but a few things, i only wish he gets hurt just to miss half a game, not something season ending, another thing is that this is all speculation you all are freaking out thinking that jasons actually gonna get injured or something....now why do i want him to get quickly hurt...because i want to see what Colt can do against a first team D with a first team Offense, and i don't think zorn has the balls to take jason out of a game (regular or preseason) to put colt in cause he's already disrespected campbell by wanting other QB's and he's already told him that he'll be our starter entering 09, if he were to take him out and put in colt expect jason to get pissed, and what if colt werent all that great, then our QB situation would be sooo F'ed up cause of what zorn just pulled, and then i'll finally shut up about colt seeing for myself that he wasn't that great after all..but back to colt in a game, so ya if jason where to get hurt then zorn would HAVE to put colt in or atleast that would be his perfect time to put him in instead of todd collins, assuming and hoping of course that he beats out todd, which i think he will, because he seems much more suited for the WCO than todd does...again this is just speculation..im still one of the biggest redskin fans here I just saw this response, and well you can read the several posts I've written here refuting your arguments (actually they are more like biased opinions) with those "crazy" facts that you don't seem to care much. If you have nothing positive to say about this team's starting QB then don't bother coming here, since most people tend to make fair and somewhat educated arguments. You put yourself on some sort of pedestal about knowing football and the best you can come up with is little story lines from previous seasons and say things like "i know what's going to happen next year"? Ruhskins 07-06-2009, 11:34 PM Putting Campbell in Flacco's spot, Campbell would have taken the Ravens to the Superbowl. Flacco who was 13 of 30 in the Championship game w/ 2 INT's and No TD's. :yeahright Man, it is sooo difficult to use that quote button. :yeahright DBUCHANON101 07-06-2009, 11:34 PM FYI JC was 24-43 vs Pitt with 0 tds and 2 ints Ruhskins 07-06-2009, 11:37 PM Man, Matty's eyes are going to bleed when he sees all of this back and forth QB argument. LOL. DBUCHANON101 07-06-2009, 11:38 PM Man, it is sooo difficult to use that quote button. :yeahright well its not that its hard..its redundent IMO. if you are talkin with 3 ppl and they say something you are not going to point at that person and repeat what he said and then say your piece... ppl who can keep up dont need the quote feature.. TRY HARDER Ruhskins 07-06-2009, 11:39 PM well its not that its hard..its redundent IMO. if you are talkin with 3 ppl and they say something you are not going to point at that person and repeat what he said and then say your piece... ppl who can keep up dont need the quote feature.. TRY HARDER Wow, he can learn! Good for you. DBUCHANON101 07-06-2009, 11:41 PM i see now we go to insults..chatroom tough guy 44Deezel 07-06-2009, 11:42 PM Wow. Between nick and dbuch, I am having flashbacks to offiss and his man crush on Patrick Ramsey. As with offiss, confronted with stats they respond "those aren't the right stats" but site none of their own. Confronted with the opinions of coaches and analysts, they say "those aren't the right coaches and analysts". As for being a lazy typer, nick, what is eminently clear, is that you are a lazy thinker. As to receivers, Derrick Mason would contest that remark - his stats are remarkably similar to Santana's. Additionally, the Ravens top 3 runners had over 2,000 yards (Rice, McGahee and McClain - each getting significant time as a starter). Portis and Betts (the only two runners with over 200 yards for the Skins) had just under 1700. The Ravens defense had 5 TD's off of interception returns. The Skins had none. The Ravens defense had one defensive fumble recovery for a TD. The Skins had none. The Ravens had two Safeties, tthe Redskins had none. The Ravens allowed 244 points, The Skins 293. The Ravens had 20 rushing TD's, the Skins had 12. Flacco was sacked 33 times, Campbell 38 (oh, and Campbell gained 250 yards to Flacco's 180). Putting Campbell in Flacco's spot, Campbell would have taken the Ravens to the Superbowl. Flacco who was 13 of 30 in the Championship game w/ 2 INT's and No TD's. The team carried Flacco, not vice versa. Collins has been in the league 14 years, played for 5 teams and almost washed out twice. He better be able to step in and play at this point. Given his stats last year, if he is a great QB then so is Campbell. Again, the Titans top 2 runners had over 2,000 yards - Portis and Betts just under 1700. The Titans defense had 3 Defensive TD's. The Skins had none. The Titans allowed 234 points, The Skins 293. The Ravens had 24 rushing TD's, the Skins had 12. Collins was sacked 8 times, Campbell 38 (again, Campbell 250 rushing yards, Collins 49). Again, put Campbell in for Collins, and maybe they beat the Ravens and play Pitt. Collins threw for 281 yards on 42 attempts with no TD's and one Interception. You then list all the playoff QB's who were not part of Redskinsgirl analysis b/c they had much better stats than JC last year. Except of course for Delhomme, any consideration of his stats would require consistency of thought on your part - something you clearly struggle with. (Go look them up, I bet Delhomme succeeded last year b/c he had a strong rushing game and a stingy opportunistic defense). Redskinsgirl's comparison was limited to players whose stats were comparable to JC's yet whose teams still made it the playoffs. To counter it, you simply ignored the question asked to come up with an answer you liked. No rationale, no stats - just subjective arguments that can be made by anyone and prove nothing. You're worse than a lazy thinker... you're just obtuse! You follow with this bit of rhetorical legerdermain: Many of the QB's in the playoffs were better than JC last year. Flacco, Collins, and Delhomme were not. Rather, and in answer to your question, JC WAS like them. He just didn't have a rushing game that provided over 2000 yards, a spare 6 or 10 TD's, or a defense that allowed fewer points and scored points on its own. Then you close with this completely unsupported remark that is proved false by every word you utter. I take it back - you're right. I (and lotus and redskingirl) don't know football like you. We actually understand it. You on the other hand are just bag of wind with an opinion. One thing I'll say about Flacco is that he isn't afraid to throw to receivers when they're "covered" (and he seems to go downfield on every pass play). There has been a lot of criticism that the skins receivers can't get open, but open is a relative term in the NFL. A few times every game, you'll see receivers who are blanketed, sometimes by 2 defenders, make spectacular catches. I recall one bomb Flacco threw to Clayton in the playoffs, I believe against Tennessee, where the 2 defenders ran into each other and fell down right as the ball got there. Clayton caught it and walked in for the score. I remember saying to myself, Campbell would have never thrown that ball". Now, you can't always get away with those passes, but good NFL QBs make a few completions like that every game. And I don't want to hear about pass protection. Yes, the pass protection was poor at times, but it wasn't as if he never, ever got time to pass. And if the Skins were smart, they would use all of their running backs like the Ravens, Giants, Falcons, Titans, Dolphins and seemingly every other team in the NFL does these days with a few exceptions. It's nice that Portis was 4th in the NFL in yardage, but some of that has to do with the fact that there are only 10 or so feature backs left. All that said, Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl with the Ravens, so I guess it's possible JC could have as well. But does anyone consider Trent Dilfer a good QB? I don't think too many JC "haters" would argue that he's pretty good when everything else around him is perfect, but perfect conditions are the exception, not the rule in the NFL. I think some of us would like to see him display the ability to make things happen when conditions are less than ideal. Hopefully, he will do so this year. |
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