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WaldSkins 06-26-2009, 10:52 PM If Campbell does:
338/515, 66%, 23 TD/8 INT, 3,605 yards, 7.0 Y/A: QB Rating of 94.4
(this is my mean projection for Campbell)
Is that "great" or merely good?
Based on last year's offensive environment, he would be 6th in the NFL in QB rating.
that's a big if
44Deezel 06-26-2009, 11:40 PM JC just needs to start taking more chances and stop playing dink and dunk ball. I don't buy the notion that Zorn isn't calling deep passes. Until he does that then his TD numbers will not improve and that's the bottom line. I don't care about comp. %, or rating. Make more big plays in the passing game and get your team in the end zone and all the stats will take care of itself. Until he does that then he'll never get a big contract. It's put up or shut up for Jason Campbell.
Ditto. Stop blaming the WRs. Lots of teams have sucky receivers, but they still manage to score points - Miami, San Diego, Tennessee, Atlanta (well, when Vick was there they sucked). I've seen Miami march 80 yards down the field without throwing a single pass to a WR. New Orleans had so many WR injuries last year, they started putting random guys from the crowd into the game. Brees kept on hitting them for long gains. It's all about Campbell. No more excuses.
tryfuhl 06-26-2009, 11:40 PM No, he is a good QB with not much to work with. He has his flaws of course, but that is only half the problem. Crappy WRs and an always banged up line spells trouble in the NFL and the NFC East. Last season he ranked 13th in passing even with such a crappy supporting cast minus CP and Moss. Think of the potential if he had a solid line and decent WRs. Believe me if Gus Frerotte could land a starting QB gig in 2008, I am sure a younger JC could land one anywhere if he told the Skins to take a hike. He could easily vye for at least a dozen starting jobs upon leaving the Skins.
Well JC doesn't reverse age.
44Deezel 06-26-2009, 11:42 PM He's certainly capable of that type of production.
23 TDs, yes. With only 8 picks, no. 23/15 is more reasonable, but I would much rather see that than 13/6.
Lotus 06-27-2009, 12:21 AM 23 TDs, yes. With only 8 picks, no. 23/15 is more reasonable, but I would much rather see that than 13/6.
Why not split your difference and make it 23 TD's, 12 INT's, a passer rating around 90, and, combined with a bad-ass defense, win the division? Many teams would want JC then. In this scenario, I would be angry if the FO did not offer him a big enough contract to keep him.
23 TDs, yes. With only 8 picks, no. 23/15 is more reasonable, but I would much rather see that than 13/6.
That would be a big jump in INTs for him.
For his career he has thrown 23 INTs over 36 games. Or .6388 INT for every 1 start. Your prediction has him at .9375 for every 1 start.
53Fan 06-27-2009, 12:57 AM JC just needs to start taking more chances and stop playing dink and dunk ball. I don't buy the notion that Zorn isn't calling deep passes. Until he does that then his TD numbers will not improve and that's the bottom line. I don't care about comp. %, or rating. Make more big plays in the passing game and get your team in the end zone and all the stats will take care of itself. Until he does that then he'll never get a big contract. It's put up or shut up for Jason Campbell.
Well I will agree with this. I've thought for awhile that JC plays too safe. I'm just not sure if it's him or the coaching. I don't know if it's been drilled into his head not to turn the ball over since he's been here, but at some point he needs to take control and go for it. A receiver is not always "wide open" and sometimes you have to take a shot and let him make a play. I personally would like to see him be a playmaker instead of a Trent Dilfer manage-the-game type of QB. He has shown the ability and hopefully this year he shows he can do what Gibbs said a QB needs to do. Drive the team down the field in the middle of a hailstorm. I believe he's capable of it, I just hope he believes so too.
skins89moss 06-27-2009, 09:06 AM It was a figure of speech meaning that the only way that he will have a job in the NFL is as a backup.
Well your name fits you well. Jason Campbell is still learning to play QB in the NFL. He had to learn a new offense every year since coming to the Redskins. Maybe fans like you need to be patient and let him grow and learn the system. We better hope JC and Zorn succeed in DC cause will be set back another 3 years. Our losing since Synder has taken over due to Coaching changes and QB changes. We can't seem to keep a QB or Coach for more than 3years at a time. We all need to hope JC can improve and resign with the Redskins. Remember teams with good defenses can make it to the Super Bowl, just ask Rex Grossmen.
skins89moss 06-27-2009, 09:13 AM JC just needs to start taking more chances and stop playing dink and dunk ball. I don't buy the notion that Zorn isn't calling deep passes. Until he does that then his TD numbers will not improve and that's the bottom line. I don't care about comp. %, or rating. Make more big plays in the passing game and get your team in the end zone and all the stats will take care of itself. Until he does that then he'll never get a big contract. It's put up or shut up for Jason Campbell.
To get the ball down field, JC needs his line to give him time and WR to run the correct routes. Its a team game if their is a break down any where during the play it may not work. Its a team game and everyone has to do their part.
skins89moss 06-27-2009, 09:18 AM Well I will agree with this. I've thought for awhile that JC plays too safe. I'm just not sure if it's him or the coaching. I don't know if it's been drilled into his head not to turn the ball over since he's been here, but at some point he needs to take control and go for it. A receiver is not always "wide open" and sometimes you have to take a shot and let him make a play. I personally would like to see him be a playmaker instead of a Trent Dilfer manage-the-game type of QB. He has shown the ability and hopefully this year he shows he can do what Gibbs said a QB needs to do. Drive the team down the field in the middle of a hailstorm. I believe he's capable of it, I just hope he believes so too.
I wonder if JC was playing not to make a msitake or turn the ball over. He needs to know that he is our QB and no matter what we will ride with him. The coaches have to have confidence in him and let him go out and make plays. This way you let him go out succeed or fail.
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