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skinsfanthru&thru
03-08-2004, 11:05 PM
Those 4 plus London Fletcher who is a damn good linebacker as well. Williams did a fine job at making that D work, but don't kid yourself...anytime you have 5 "borderline" pro bowlers on the field, it is hard to say that there wasn't an abundance of talent.

don't we now have 5-6 players with pro bowl possiblities? and he got people I know I had never heard of before getting enormous production like schobel who had 8.5 and 12 sacks the past two years. I'm just saying it's not as bad as a lot of people are making it out to be even though I do hope one of the remaining additions we make is a pass rush specialist. That being said I don't know how anyone would be against us having an offense like KC but with a solid defense as well like a buffalo quietly had last year. I mean if KC could do what they have done without a defense or a solid #1 WR, imagine what could be done with a ramsey/brunell, portis, coles&roy williams&gardner offense and a decent defense led by arrington, smoot, griffin, trotter, and washington. I just think with the very consistent production he's had at texas, R.Williams is the best overall WR with his size, strength, speed, hands, and route running abilities.

I know I'm in the minority hear but I don't think u can go wrong with that pick just like u couldn't with winslow or taylor. we could even trade down and still get him because with all the hype about fitzgerald and Mike Williams entering early, he's become lost in the mix.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
03-09-2004, 01:20 AM
While we've got a lot of talent, the Bills had more last season and they were much more balanced. Great LBs, very good DBs, AND a good line.

skinsfanthru&thru
03-09-2004, 03:19 PM
While we've got a lot of talent, the Bills had more last season and they were much more balanced. Great LBs, very good DBs, AND a good line.

I'd say they had decent cbs (their top three cbs only combined for 6 ints and 25 pass deflections compared to our top three in the upcoming season of 9ints and 30 deflections and thats with spings missing time.) I'll give u the fact that Takeo spikes is an extrodinary LB and Fletcher is definitely good, but w/o looking it up could anyone even name their 3rd starting LB. Our linebacking core is a set of young players with in my opinion an extreme upside especially if trotter is finally used properly. and our line, while not flashy, is very solid (plus I see us picking up a pass rusher-type end and moving wynn in as a DT.) I don't know if I'm seeing more than a lot of other people are but for the first time in a few years I believe our defense can keep us in games and not worry about falling apart when they need to be their strongest.

Gmanc711
03-09-2004, 07:31 PM
I think our Secondary/LB Core could be one of the strongest in the NFL. While I think our Dline is defintley upgraded a bit, I'm still skeptical, but as someone else said, I trust this coaching staff more. I think with better coaching, we could have easily had a much better defense, that could by why our line looked so horrible all the time.

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