Report: Wizards Trade for Randy Foye and Mike Miller

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SmootSmack
06-23-2009, 10:26 PM
Washington, Minnesota strike a deal - NBA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wasmintrade062309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

The Washington Wizards have agreed in principle to acquire Minnesota Timberwolves guards Randy Foye(notes) and Mike Miller(notes) for Etan Thomas(notes), Oleksiy Pecherov(notes) and Darius Songaila and the fifth pick in Thursday’s NBA draft, a league executive with knowledge of the deal told Yahoo! Sports.

Foye is a bit of a tweener, but underrated at the point in my opinion. Still I think he may end up replacing DeShawn as the defensive stopper at the 2.

Miller kind of reminds me of Tracy Murray at this stage in his career

FRPLG
06-24-2009, 12:17 AM
Well dumping Thomas' contract was a goal. Songaila is basically garbage (maybe that's harsh). Pecherov hasn't been much. They really only dumped a marginal player in Darius and the 5 for a slightly better than marginal player in Miller and maybe a good talent in Foye. Not sure they did better with this than just using the pick though. I guess dumping Etan's contract was a key.

GMScud
06-24-2009, 01:45 AM
I don't think the Wiz really liked anyone who'd be available at #5. Plus we have too many mediocre big men, primarily Pecherov, Blatche, Etan. Haywood has been pretty darn good when healthy the past two seasons, and Jevale McGee is an up and comer. I think we probably kept our best 3 bigs out of those 5. Songaila is a decent defender, but not much else.

Mike "Spanky" Miller is a solid player with good 3 point range for his size. He had his worst year last season, but he can be a contributor for us for sure. Granted I'm biased because he was a helluva player for the Gators.

I hear we were taking a good look at James Harden from Az St in the draft. Randy Foye has only been in the league two seasons, is nearly identical in size to Harden, and also plays the #2. He averaged 16+ ppg last sesason, plus he's a good defender and solid 3 point shooter. So we dump some contracts, and acquire a proven version of a guy we may draft anyway, plus get a proven vet. We definitely got smaller with this trade, but I like our guard rotation now.

I think I like this.

an23dy
06-24-2009, 03:15 AM
I liked the move rather than keeping the pick. They saved about $3 million, added a veteran, and got rid of some guys that were just taking up space, I never really liked Etan, Pecherov, or Songalia. I wanted them to trade down to the middle of the first and get a guy like DeJuan Blair or Gerald Henderson. Those guys would help on defense and I think they are both gonna be real good NBA players, but would be considered reaches at #5. Also, we got the 2nd pick of round 2 so we'll have room on the roster to sign that guy.

Guys I want in Round 2 (some would have to slip)
James Johnson (not only good at bball, but 20-0 as a kickboxer)
Darren Collison (great A/TO, leader, and winner)
Josh Heytvelt (I think his game translates well to the NBA)
Jon Brockman (rebounding has been the most consistent thing that has shown to transfer to the NBA)

jdlea
06-24-2009, 07:02 AM
I like the move. Miller can come in and knock down some threes for them. My only question is what is their rotation going to look like? Arenas, Stevenson, Young and Foye in the backcourt, Miller and Butler at the 3, and then Jamison and McGee in the front, along with some Brendan Haywood? They're thin up front still. They need to get some more size.

hooskins
06-24-2009, 09:02 AM
I like the move. Miller can come in and knock down some threes for them. My only question is what is their rotation going to look like? Arenas, Stevenson, Young and Foye in the backcourt, Miller and Butler at the 3, and then Jamison and McGee in the front, along with some Brendan Haywood? They're thin up front still. They need to get some more size.

Exactly. I'm not sure Foye will get a ton of minutes. He averaged 16 ppg but also 30+ minutes.

jdlea
06-24-2009, 09:27 AM
Exactly. I'm not sure Foye will get a ton of minutes. He averaged 16 ppg but also 30+ minutes.

Yeah, but you never know. If it were me, I'd consider trading Stevenson at this point. He's not that great of a player and I don't know that he would accept a role off the bench. If it were up to me, I'd package try to see if I could get a young big who seems like he needs a change of scenery. Or I'd offer him and Jamison for Paul Millsap.

hooskins
06-24-2009, 09:30 AM
Yeah, but you never know. If it were me, I'd consider trading Stevenson at this point. He's not that great of a player and I don't know that he would accept a role off the bench. If it were up to me, I'd package try to see if I could get a young big who seems like he needs a change of scenery. Or I'd offer him and Jamison for Paul Millsap.

That is actually what I was thinking. Stevenson should be the odd man out, because to me both Young and Foye have better upside. Also Young would have little trade value, because I am sure much of the NBA feels he is unproven.

I realize we gotta get rid of Jameson but I think his departure will really hurt us, as he is a consistent 20-10 guy.

FRPLG
06-24-2009, 10:07 AM
I don't see how getting rid of Jamison helps them at all. He is the team leader and averages a double-double basically. His defensive deficiencies aside he is pretty indispensable to the team in its current form. We'd have to get a pretty good deal of production back in return for him.

Stevenson could bring some help but I doubt we'd get much help in the front court using just him as the bait.

jdlea
06-24-2009, 10:44 AM
I don't see how getting rid of Jamison helps them at all. He is the team leader and averages a double-double basically. His defensive deficiencies aside he is pretty indispensable to the team in its current form. We'd have to get a pretty good deal of production back in return for him.

Stevenson could bring some help but I doubt we'd get much help in the front court using just him as the bait.

I would unload Jamison because he's basically a tall 3. He's not a very good post player. the Wiz could use one with all of the athletic guards they have. Push come to shove, I'd keep Butler over Jamison and that's basically what you'd have to give up to get Millsap. He's a guy who can come in and play in the post and he's young. McGee, Millsap, Butler, Young/Foye, and Arenas > McGee, Jamison, Butler, Young/Foye and Arenas because the first group can play from the inside out, the latter is just a worse version of the Magic, essentially.

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