Obama Care

Tax increases without massive spending decreases won't help one bit with being fiscally responsible since the spending will of course more than likely still outstrip revenue. Lower taxes and lower spending is the only way to go to get our house in order.
Trust me , I'm for lower taxes / flat tax .... and much less Gov't spending . Until Our gov't < R's and D's > stop spending and printing our money to buy thier seats .... we are gonna get screwed , again sadly .

Care to qualify by any means necessary?Short of sending out Luca Brasi (as far as we know) or direct violation of any laws (pending the legal challenges forthcoming on the Health Care bill) my statement is pretty self-explanatory.

Short of sending out Luca Brasi (as far as we know) or direct violation of any laws (pending the legal challenges forthcoming on the Health Care bill) my statement is pretty self-explanatory.

I don't understand why people are so afraid of the word socialism. We're not in the 1960s and the Reds aren't coming to get us. Sometimes I feel that the words socialism is thrown around the same as terrorism. People forget that the New Deal was a form of socialism for example, and I don't think anyone was out for FDR's head when it happened...well some people were.

I don't understand why people are so afraid of the word socialism. We're not in the 1960s and the Reds aren't coming to get us. Sometimes I feel that the words socialism is thrown around the same as terrorism. People forget that the New Deal was a form of socialism for example, and I don't think anyone was out for FDR's head when it happened...well some people were.


Obviously, you have not seen Rocky IV.

Obviously, you have not seen Rocky IV.

Good one.

Short of sending out Luca Brasi (as far as we know) or direct violation of any laws (pending the legal challenges forthcoming on the Health Care bill) my statement is pretty self-explanatory.

This is what sadness and bitterness looks like? Fascinating.

Obviously, you have not seen Rocky IV.

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"I must break you"

By no means is Pelosi incompetent. She's pushing forward her and the left's agenda to move the U.S. towards Euorpean socialism, by any means necessary.

Unfortunately that is not true.

I don't understand why people are so afraid of the word socialism. We're not in the 1960s and the Reds aren't coming to get us. Sometimes I feel that the words socialism is thrown around the same as terrorism. People forget that the New Deal was a form of socialism for example, and I don't think anyone was out for FDR's head when it happened...well some people were.

Some of the same people who use "socialism" as a dirty word have no problems using a government-funded ambulance service to get them to the government-funded hospital near them during an emergency. It amazes me how people some people can enjoy a measure of socialism while they use the "s" word as some kind of put-down.

In a way, the Republicans share much of the blame here. Certainly not on this particular vote, as they all voted against it. But think back to when the GOP had control of the House, the Senate and the Presidency. How hard did they fight for Tort Reform? For allowing the purchase of health insurance plans across state lines? For dismantling some of the insane mandates that do nothing but hike the costs?

Nope. The Republicans didn't do any of that -- in fact, they did much worse. They added an unconstitutional, outrageously expensive entitlement of their very own! I'm speaking of the Medicare Prescription Drug Modernization and Improvement Act of 2003.

You have to hand it to the Democrats. When it comes to advancing their agenda, they are much more tenacious than the GOP has ever been. When was the last time the Republicans enacted major legislation that empowers the free market, the individual, that advances capitalism? Apart from some tax cuts here and there, I can't think of any.

As the saying goes, no matter who you vote for, government always gets elected.