Obama Care


CRedskinsRule
06-23-2009, 07:14 PM
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You cannot be an advanced society when ANY percentage of your population are denied healthcare. Take a look at defense spending in the same period. I'd be interested to see how much of a difference there is in one as opposed to the other. Too many people get wrapped up in these emotional issues with ideas being labelled "democratic, republican or, oh my heavens, socialist." Sit back, take off your partisan hat and think about the most basic question: Should everyone, let alone every US Citizen, have access to quality healthcare?

Sorry but the first bolded statement is ridiculous. Denial of healthcare happens in every society on the planet. If you think otherwise I am open to being proven wrong, but you have to show proof of one hundred percent coverage for 100% of possible medical needs. You won't be able to.

As for the second one: no. quality healthcare is not a natural right(last I checked - there is no naturally produced healthcare system - doesn't grow on trees or appear in nature, was not handed down in the 10 commandments or Koran, and is not spontaneously occuring in the universe), nor is it implied or guaranteed in our Constitution.

CRedskinsRule
06-23-2009, 07:15 PM
It will cost us as much as it did to " give everyone a house " . NO FREE LUNCH . I hope like hell that we improve our healthcare , but scrapping an imperfect system makes us much sence as the Redskins releasing our entire OL , WR's and JC because they were not a top 5 offense .

don't give away VC's strategies in a silly healthcare debate.... Geez ;)

budw38
06-23-2009, 07:16 PM
Canadian Health Care In Crisis - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/20/health/main681801.shtml?cmp=EM8705) Universal healthcare's dirty little secrets - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-tanner5apr05,0,2227144.story)

budw38
06-23-2009, 07:18 PM
don't give away VC's strategies in a silly healthcare debate.... Geez ;) How are you CRedskin . I think we will be fine on offense as long as our Line plays well .

CRedskinsRule
06-23-2009, 07:24 PM
How are you CRedskin . I think we will be fine on offense as long as our Line plays well .

I am good, I think we are gonna do some real damage this year. Personally I 'm hoping atleast for the division title, but alas the season is sooooo far away.

I was just playing on your analogy; people are in such a hurry to scrap a system that has produced so many modern miracles, it just really amazes me.

budw38
06-23-2009, 07:49 PM
I am good, I think we are gonna do some real damage this year. Personally I 'm hoping atleast for the division title, but alas the season is sooooo far away.

I was just playing on your analogy; people are in such a hurry to scrap a system that has produced so many modern miracles, it just really amazes me. I agree , maybe I'am wrong but 85 % of Americans like the health care they have ? Of course , we should always look for improvements in everything we do as a nation and as individuals .

Dirtbag59
06-23-2009, 07:56 PM
As long as I can keep getting insured by a private HMO then awesome if not then I'm screwed.

BleedBurgundy
06-23-2009, 09:57 PM
The way people feel isn't a talking point. Your grammar conjugation is almost as bad as First Down's spelling.

how do you post on the intra-webs and not get that joke? Do you need a dancing banana to help you?

BleedBurgundy
06-23-2009, 10:25 PM
Sorry but the first bolded statement is ridiculous. Denial of healthcare happens in every society on the planet. If you think otherwise I am open to being proven wrong, but you have to show proof of one hundred percent coverage for 100% of possible medical needs. You won't be able to.

As for the second one: no. quality healthcare is not a natural right(last I checked - there is no naturally produced healthcare system - doesn't grow on trees or appear in nature, was not handed down in the 10 commandments or Koran, and is not spontaneously occuring in the universe), nor is it implied or guaranteed in our Constitution.

When we can provide health benefits to 100% of our citizens for a fraction of our defense spending, yeah, I say do it. It's not ridiculous, it's enlightened. To that end, i'll leave this discussion with a quote.

“Man has such a predilection for systems and abstract deductions that he is ready to distort the truth intentionally, he is ready to deny the evidence of his senses only to justify his logic” Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Trample the Elderly
06-23-2009, 10:35 PM
how do you post on the intra-webs and not get that joke? Do you need a dancing banana to help you?

What's an intra-web, a blog?

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