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Trample the Elderly 03-19-2010, 01:51 PM my girl is one of the 32 million without health insurance.
shes 30, works 2 jobs, has high blood pressure and is anemic.
last year she fell and busted her eye/head open. with no insurance, we couldnt take her to the hospital. i watched her carefully for a few days. 3 days after the fall, she fainted, fell, was psitting up blood. i rushed her to the hospital. the doctors wanted to do all types of tests since there was a traumatic head injury. (that actor's wife just died from a minor head injury skiing). we told them our situation and had to decline anything but the most necessary treatments. she gets released from the hospital in a few hours. we get a 10k bill.
the past year she has been having sudden episodes where her heartbeat increases to a fevered pitch, you can feel her heart pounding against her chest cavity. she gets very weak, has trouble breathing, fights to stay conscious. since she doesnt have health insurance, all i can do is hold her while she is lumped on the ground for the half hour or so the attacks take. it is frightening as hell to have your loved one potentially dying in your arms and you cant do anything aobut it b/c we cant afford $200 + a month for health insurance for her.
she eventually did get health insurance a few months ago but all she could afford is a health plan that doesnt pay a cent until she has paid over $10,000 for medical services per year. which, of course doesnt help.
to you all with health insurance, living a nice life, think aobut some of us who work hard, pay our own way thru life but still cant afford the out of control costs of health care.
reading that blue cross has increased their charges without explanation pisses me off. this is a game they are playing, trying to maintain their stanglehold on the price of health.
this bill isnt about you guys and girls who have health insurance. its about the 30 year old girl working 2 jobs, getting no govt assistance, who cant afford health care b/c health insurance companies got it nice and cozy right now and they dont want that to change.
There are other ways to go about that than forcing me to pay for your girl's doctor bills.
over the mountain 03-19-2010, 02:03 PM im all ears for some options TTE, fire away buddy.
Dlyne8r 03-19-2010, 02:04 PM my girl is one of the 32 million without health insurance.
shes 30, works 2 jobs, has high blood pressure and is anemic.
last year she fell and busted her eye/head open. with no insurance, we couldnt take her to the hospital. i watched her carefully for a few days. 3 days after the fall, she fainted, fell, was psitting up blood. i rushed her to the hospital. the doctors wanted to do all types of tests since there was a traumatic head injury. (that actor's wife just died from a minor head injury skiing). we told them our situation and had to decline anything but the most necessary treatments. she gets released from the hospital in a few hours. we get a 10k bill.
the past year she has been having sudden episodes where her heartbeat increases to a fevered pitch, you can feel her heart pounding against her chest cavity. she gets very weak, has trouble breathing, fights to stay conscious. since she doesnt have health insurance, all i can do is hold her while she is lumped on the ground for the half hour or so the attacks take. it is frightening as hell to have your loved one potentially dying in your arms and you cant do anything aobut it b/c we cant afford $200 + a month for health insurance for her.
she eventually did get health insurance a few months ago but all she could afford is a health plan that doesnt pay a cent until she has paid over $10,000 for medical services per year. which, of course doesnt help.
to you all with health insurance, living a nice life, think aobut some of us who work hard, pay our own way thru life but still cant afford the out of control costs of health care.
reading that blue cross has increased their charges without explanation pisses me off. this is a game they are playing, trying to maintain their stanglehold on the price of health.
this bill isnt about you guys and girls who have health insurance. its about the 30 year old girl working 2 jobs, getting no govt assistance, who cant afford health care b/c health insurance companies got it nice and cozy right now and they dont want that to change.
Wow, very sorry to read of your girl’s condition. My wife and I have been out of work way too long and we often fear situations similar to yours. Very anxious times here in our home with two kids to care for also. Yet, Trample The Elderly’s comments reflect the true paradox of this whole health care bill: Is it fair to everyone else to carry the financial burden of the uninsured? There must be another way, but I'll probably be taking a dirt nap when it's discovered.
Lotus 03-19-2010, 02:14 PM TTE, if your house were burning down, my money would help to pay for the fire department to save your stuff.
If you were robbed, my money would pay for law enforcement so that you can get justice.
But I'm gonna draw the line regarding my money when it comes to your living a healthy life?
joethiesmanfan 03-19-2010, 02:16 PM Ram it down their throats. We got the trump card to pull out this summer. LOL!!!!
Lotus 03-19-2010, 02:16 PM to you all with health insurance, living a nice life, think aobut some of us who work hard, pay our own way thru life but still cant afford the out of control costs of health care.
reading that blue cross has increased their charges without explanation pisses me off. this is a game they are playing, trying to maintain their stanglehold on the price of health.
this bill isnt about you guys and girls who have health insurance. its about the 30 year old girl working 2 jobs, getting no govt assistance, who cant afford health care b/c health insurance companies got it nice and cozy right now and they dont want that to change.
Your tale is not just tragic, it is shameful. We, the greatest nation on earth, allow our citizens to face such situations. As a country we should be ashamed that we cannot provide a measure of health care for everyone.
The system is seriously flawed. I hope everyone can at least agree on that.
People shouldn't have to go into serious debt over a medical condition that is out of their control. Shameful indeed.
Trample the Elderly 03-19-2010, 02:30 PM TTE, if your house were burning down, my money would help to pay for the fire department to save your stuff.
If you were robbed, my money would pay for law enforcement so that you can get justice.
But I'm gonna draw the line regarding my money when it comes to your living a healthy life?
The line is I have the freedom to buy home owner's insurance. I can buy a premium plan or none at all depending on the local laws. My life is my responsibilty and mine alone.
Also, I don't depend on the fire or police department to safe guard my property and life.
It has been said that Americans are spoiled. Some people are I guess. To think that you're going to go through life without pain and suffering, well . . believe what you want.
Lotus 03-19-2010, 02:35 PM The line is I have the freedom to buy home owner's insurance. I can buy a premium plan or none at all depending on the local laws. My life is my responsibilty and mine alone.
Also, I don't depend on the fire or police department to safe guard my property and life.
It has been said that Americans are spoiled. Some people are I guess. To think that you're going to go through life without pain and suffering, well . . believe what you want.
If your house is seriously in flames, you are not going to call the fire department? If some thugs are clearly bent on breaking into your house and harming your family, you are not going to call the cops? Really?
You are going to fight al Qaeda alone, and you don't get any help from tax-paid government security in the fight against terrorism? Really?
Trample the Elderly 03-19-2010, 02:45 PM im all ears for some options TTE, fire away buddy.
What did our grandparents do when something happened to them? They leaned on each other. Governments come and go, families and friends are the ultimate safety net.
One: Let people buy health insurance over state lines. Hell, let Americans buy foreign insurance if they want. You want choices right?
Two: We as the citizenry don't have to let corporations keep their charters. If they're found to be price gouging, revoke them.
Three: Bust the trusts.
Four: Stop running the dollar into the ground. If our dollars were worth more, then you could buy more health insurance. Maybe doctors would come to see the sick again instead of vice versa. My doctor takes cold hard cash. That's all that I have.
It baffles me how many people place their faith in government. You want to talk about the quality of life. Governments are the leading cause of unnatural death throughout human history. Remember Iraq, Vietnam, Cash for Clunkers, Social Security? That's the government hard at work. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
If you need some money for your gal, kids, or whatever; send me a PM. I'll give you all that I can. When you get the government to take it from me without my consent, you're just a thief. That's what it boils down to IMO, no matter how many good intentions or how much self-justification is presented.
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