Obama Care

Illusion is an interesting choice of words there. Are you saying that perception is reality?

And now I will drop a random TJ quote..."It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."

I'm saying that if anyone realistically believes there is any true oversight of public officials or private corporations, whether it be via 4th estate or internal mechanisms, they are kidding themselves. So yes, in this case, perception is reality. The individual is not heard by either party, corp. or gov. But with the nature of our government, there is at least hope that there could one day be transparency and that the greater good is what is being looked after, and not the bottom line. The same cannot be said for business.

I'm saying that if anyone realistically believes there is any true oversight of public officials or private corporations, whether it be via 4th estate or internal mechanisms, they are kidding themselves. So yes, in this case, perception is reality. The individual is not heard by either party, corp. or gov. But with the nature of our government, there is at least hope that there could one day be transparency and that the greater good is what is being looked after, and not the bottom line. The same cannot be said for business.
whoa, what nature is that??? politicians run for the same reason corporate execs seek the top. power. the nature of our government like every government is a self expandingg seat of power. yes we have elections, yes we can boot the bums out, but lets be realistic, what is the turnover of politicians? unless they are real bad guys, or the president, they can stay in there forever. where is the transparency for a senator Byrd, or senator strom thurmond?

Reducing.....not eliminate. Multi-million awards throw a monkey wrench into the malpractice insurance formula (Schneed can give more detail than I, I'm sure). I also don't agree with the $ 250K number floated a few years back by Bush & crew, it should be higher. But there has to be a finite number that malpractice insurers can work their premiums to cover, otherwise that cost will continue to spiral upwards.

There also needs to be better enforcement of existing systems in place to identify and punish bad docs.

Cap Medical Malpractice, Not Malpractice Awards: Ann Woolner - Bloomberg.com (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=ajrq5bdLgNew)

People act as if there are these, to paraphrase Lewis Black, "Medicinal Banditos" roaming the countryside in search of new ways to maim and kill. The threat of loss of license, livelihood and possible incarceration should be enough to limit irresponsible practice. I think people should be protected against possible malpractice, but it doesn't have to be in the form of a lottery ticket.

whoa, what nature is that??? politicians run for the same reason corporate execs seek the top. power. the nature of our government like every government is a self expandingg seat of power. yes we have elections, yes we can boot the bums out, but lets be realistic, what is the turnover of politicians? unless they are real bad guys, or the president, they can stay in there forever. where is the transparency for a senator Byrd, or senator strom thurmond?

Nature of democracy is what I was referring to. But I share your pessimism. The only real weapon any populace has is the threat of revolution.

It dawned on me last night while watching Obama talk about health care and how much this sounds just like what was said when they started the goverment run health care in Mass. Then it clicked that this bill is from Ted Kennedy and where the heck is he from? Thats right Mass. and I wonder how much of that failing programe is in this federal bill they are trying to pass today. I know this is a repost but what they expected to happen in Mass. is what Obama is saying about this bill and what he says will not happen is just what happened in Mass. Don't know how one could read this post and not relate it to what is going on now.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/bp/bp112.pdf

It dawned on me last night while watching Obama talk about health care and how much this sounds just like what was said when they started the goverment run health care in Mass. Then it clicked that this bill is from Ted Kennedy and where the heck is he from? Thats right Mass. and I wonder how much of that failing programe is in this federal bill they are trying to pass today. I know this is a repost but what they expected to happen in Mass. is what Obama is saying about this bill and what he says will not happen is just what happened in Mass. Don't know how one could read this post and not relate it to what is going on now.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/bp/bp112.pdf


You don't suppose that there might be some modifications to this bill that may address the Mass. health care problems?

You don't suppose that there might be some modifications to this bill that may address the Mass. health care problems?
Maybe but I'll also bet Obama has not even read the bill.

Maybe but I'll also bet Obama has not even read the bill.

I am sure he has. After the first reading, you mainly read mark ups, that is not as much as reading 1000 pages every time. I doubt ANY President puts his signature on a bill without at least knowing whats in it (granted it's not on his desk yet). For Congressmen and Senators, they can get away with it, claiming compromise blah blah blah.

Maybe but I'll also bet Obama has not even read the bill.

Wow. Got a basis for that off the wall assertion?

Press Conference:
Q: So Mr. President, now that you've signed the Law, how do you expect Title IV, Subtitle 6 to affect [insert subject matter].

A. Ummmm, ahhhhh I didn't actually read that part. So, uh... ummmm.... aahh, now, I'll have to go ahead and have those reports back to you this afternoon ya' ummm.

His personal legislation which he wants and is intending to use as his landmark legislative project and you think he didn't read it?

Wow. Got a basis for that off the wall assertion?

8 years of 'W' will do that to you.