Obama Care


Hog1
02-10-2012, 05:45 PM
Enforcement of existing laws by federal agencies would be a good start. The money saved by reducing illegal immigration far outweighs the cost of implementing any additional security measures.

THAT sort of Crazy talk will get you in trouble....blacklisted.....possibly stoned. I'm sure Kieth Olbermann will be contacting you shortly....

12thMan
02-10-2012, 06:17 PM
The cost to provide contraception is revenue neutral, that's why there's no outrage from the insurance companies over the compromise. And as it's been pointed out, it costs significantly more to cover a pregancy.

It's a win win. Religious groups don't have to enforce a rule that goes against, according to them biblical teachings, and women aren't denyed coverage.

saden1
02-10-2012, 06:25 PM
The cost to provide contraception is revenue neutral, that's why there's no outrage from the insurance companies over the compromise. And as it's been pointed out, it costs significantly more to cover a pregancy.

It's a win win. Religious groups don't have to enforce a rule that goes against, according to them biblical teachings, and women aren't denyed coverage.


Are we really arguing about birth control in 2012? This sort of crap makes you really hate organized religion. If they want to roll with this sort of nonsense we should take away their tax breaks. Fck'em.

JoeRedskin
02-11-2012, 12:48 AM
Are we really arguing about birth control in 2012? This sort of crap makes you really hate organized religion. If they want to roll with this sort of nonsense we should take away their tax breaks. Fck'em.

Essentially, the same arguments over Church v. State we have been having since Henry II asked the infamous question "Who shall rid me of this meddlesome priest"?

Some slough it off as an anachronistic religion - and I agree with the statement that it is this shit that makes religion seem like unicorns and flying pigs - BUT, the underlying question of when can the State regulate beliefs is ultimately a thorny problem and no simple answer exists. As I said of Henry II, the extent that secular regulations may intrude on religious belief is an old question faced by free societies and will not be going away anytime soon.

RedskinRat
02-11-2012, 12:54 AM
A simple solution would be for each deity representing the particular faith to request their tax exempt status in person. That should narrow it down.

To zero.

The Goat
02-11-2012, 01:13 AM
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice | Racism, Bias & Politics | Right-Wing and Left-Wing Ideology | LiveScience (http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html)

SirClintonPortis
02-11-2012, 04:50 AM
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice | Racism, Bias & Politics | Right-Wing and Left-Wing Ideology | LiveScience (http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html)
What's funny to me is that psychometrics in its entirety, and IQ scores in particular, would be tossed out the window by those skeptical of statistics, and often on the grounds of unfairness.

I'd like to know how many readers of the article ever heard of the g factor when reading this article and were not using mere intuitions of intelligence. Sure, those who are psychologists know, but what about everyone else?

Maybe these fellas can help explain why left-wing Quebec threw a hissy fit about Randy Cunneyworth not being able to speak French. They'll probably bring up the "averages" explanation.

firstdown
02-12-2012, 09:18 AM
The problem is not really the BC issues its the fact that all these mandates are one reason health insurance is so expensive.

Dirtbag59
02-12-2012, 10:38 AM
The problem is not really the BC issues its the fact that all these mandates are one reason health insurance is so expensive.

All I know is under the old system put in place by Bush I couldn't get the insurance I needed because of pre-existing conditions. Back then I couldn't find a job that fit my degree and the part time job I took on only offered 3 doctor visits a year for their insurance. AHCA gets passed and now I have quality insurance again, granted it's expensive at $400 a month with COBRA but certainly cheaper then having nothing.

Now part of me trust Romney to get this right because as Romney has said, as long as you continue getting some type of coverage companies won't be able to turn you down.

Still not sure though that deregulation (state lines)/regulation (preexisting conditions) will fix the problem. Sometimes deregulation works extremely well as seen with the airlines and other times its a disaster as seen with energy and Savings and loans.

Plus I all but expect plenty on insurance companies to abuse deregulation under the GOP.

That Guy
02-12-2012, 12:13 PM
All I know is under the old system put in place by Bush I couldn't get the insurance I needed because of pre-existing conditions. Back then I couldn't find a job that fit my degree and the part time job I took on only offered 3 doctor visits a year for their insurance. AHCA gets passed and now I have quality insurance again, granted it's expensive at $400 a month with COBRA but certainly cheaper then having nothing.

Now part of me trust Romney to get this right because as Romney has said, as long as you continue getting some type of coverage companies won't be able to turn you down.

Still not sure though that deregulation (state lines)/regulation (preexisting conditions) will fix the problem. Sometimes deregulation works extremely well as seen with the airlines and other times its a disaster as seen with energy and Savings and loans.

Plus I all but expect plenty on insurance companies to abuse deregulation under the GOP.

well, energy got it wrong... they didn't account for limited transmission lines. So i guess its just 100% dependent on implementation.

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