Obama Care

No bueno for Obamacare....

Judge rules healthcare reform unconstitutional | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/31/us-usa-healthcare-ruling-idUSTRE70U6RY20110131?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews)

That the plaintiffs would receive a favorable decision in this particular suit was expected, but the scope of the decision--invalidation of the entire act--was not. In the other decision to go against the government (the Virginia case), the judge (Henry Hudson, Michale Vick's judge) did not invalidate the entire act. The number of federal court decisions finding the Affordable Care Act consitutional still outnumbers the decisions finding it unconstitutional, but there is no doubt that the Florida case had generated the most attention. Still, all of these federal district court decisions are just the opening acts to the ultimate S.Ct. review. I think it's going to be a very close call up their, but I doubt that the court will invalidate the entire law.

Why force people to buy health ins. Why not just allow health providers the right to refuse service if someone does not have coverage or money to pay their bill.

Why force people to buy health ins. Why not just allow health providers the right to refuse service if someone does not have coverage or money to pay their bill.

Well, I would imagine that the whole point is that those who support this measure would respond that healthcare shouldn't be refused to anyone who needs it.

Why force people to buy health ins. Why not just allow health providers the right to refuse service if someone does not have coverage or money to pay their bill.
so you would like the poor to not be able to get treatments? i guess all you insurance guys stick together. i say we make car insurance optional. you down with that?

They probably won't review the case until next year anyway.

so you would like the poor to not be able to get treatments? i guess all you insurance guys stick together. i say we make car insurance optional. you down with that?

When I say give health providers the right to refuse services I have assumed that there is something in place for the poor. Then the people who choose not to buy coverage either have to show they can pay for services or they are out of luck.

Why force people to buy health ins. Why not just allow health providers the right to refuse service if someone does not have coverage or money to pay their bill.


Why not force people to buy guns too:

South Dakota Lawmakers Propose Mandating Gun Ownership -- to Make Point About Health Law - FoxNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/01/sd-lawmakers-propose-mandating-gun-ownership-make-point-health-law/)

oh wait:

Gun Ownership Mandatory In Kennesaw, Georgia --- Crime Rate Plummets (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1818862/posts)

nothing like silly laws that waste our money to try and " prove a point" why not work on some of the real issues like unemployment?

nothing like silly laws that waste our money to try and " prove a point" why not work on some of the real issues like unemployment?


I thought the 1 trillion stimulas was to fix the unemployment issue. Talking about waisted money.

When I say give health providers the right to refuse services I have assumed that there is something in place for the poor. Then the people who choose not to buy coverage either have to show they can pay for services or they are out of luck.

IMO this bill is to provide an alternative more affordable health care option for a segment of US citizens who fall btw the crack of not being poor enough to qualify for free health care (medicaid, SS) but dont make enough money to pay the expensive priv health care options.

The poor and lazy who live off welfare or SS get medicaid free of charge.

If you make over 40k you can probably afford 200-300 a month in priv health care or your employment offers a pay-in program.

If you make 20-30k a year, you probably dont have health ins.

Im sorry, but priv health ins groups prices are out of control, they know it and the gov't knows it.

$165 a month to have a 10k deductible is rediculus. I have to incur and pay 10k in medical expenses in a year before my health ins will kick in a penny is a joke.

There is something in place for the poor who sit around and collect gov't checks. The problem is there isnt anything in place for the poor who actually work for a living. Your better off quiting your day job and living off the gov't w/ free health care, food stamps and section 8 vs working, making 9.50 an hour and hoping you dont suffer an accidental injury that would leave a 20k hospital debt hanging over you.