Obama Care

the hopeful pro side to that is that there will be an influx of fed money to help pay for regulations and sanctuaries. my state fishing license money once a year cant support all that is needed.

We all know how good the government is at protecting the fish in VA.

Encyclopedia Virginia: Kepone (http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Kepone)

Funny someone brouht up fishing because now Obama wants to take that over too. I have a big FU to Obama on that. Its not enough they regulate the ocean now the federal goverment want to manage every river lake a stream. So when they decide that a fish is endangered they can say no more fishing and its done. States will loose their rights to regulate the waters up to three miles out as they do now. Which works just fine.

Anyone get the feeling the Dems are out to just piss everyone off? Do they think all the votes are with the health and nature people?

I've figured out the whole health plan issue.... they wanted to visit the same strip clubs but wanted all the women to be clean prior to them visiting. some of the girls don't have health coverage. ;)

We all know how good the government is at protecting the fish in VA.

Encyclopedia Virginia: Kepone (http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Kepone)

I can remember the Kepone scare back in the 70's like it was yesterday. My parents at the time lived on the Elizabeth River and as a kid all I did was crab and fish in the summer. Then came the Kepone scare and no one would touch the seafood. After a couple of years people figured out you had to eat like 20 fish or crabs a day for like 20 years to even have any risk at all from Kepone. I remember my parents having guess from out of town and we would eat crabs and the people would start asking about Kepone, We would say "oh, its ok to eat the crabs" as we would shake now and then. It became more of a joke as the years went on and it was actually good for the numbers of crabs and fish. In the 80's after they lifted most of the restrictions crabbing was great. We could catch a 5 to 6 dozen fat jimmy's in an hour or so. Compare that with today and it would take me a week to catch that many crabs. The state does a poor job now and it could only get worse if the feds gain control.

First the health care industry. Now with the changes being made to federal student loans, lots more young Americans are going to be carrying financial debt with the US of A as the lender. Awesome decision given the crapper the banking industry is already in. And it further expands big government. Blech.

I'm all for education, but our banks are hurting too much right now for another multi-billion dollar blow.

New rules streamline student loans, eliminate some pitfalls - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/columnist/block/2010-03-30-yourmoney30_ST_N.htm)

First the health care industry. Now with the changes being made to federal student loans, lots more young Americans are going to be carrying financial debt with the US of A as the lender. Awesome decision given the crapper the banking industry is already in. And it further expands big government. Blech.

I'm all for education, but our banks are hurting too much right now for another multi-billion dollar blow.

New rules streamline student loans, eliminate some pitfalls - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/columnist/block/2010-03-30-yourmoney30_ST_N.htm)

You think Banks should be able to borrow money from the feds turn around and lend it to students for 2 percent profit? Interesting.

The change, included in the health care overhaul bill that cleared Congress last week, has caused considerable turmoil in the banking industry, which stands to lose billions of dollars in federal subsidies. BTW, subsidies are a form of bail out aren't they? I thought conservatives were against bailouts.

If Banks can borrow money from the feds so should I and I did until Republicans decided their friends needed be tossed a few billion dollars for free. I applicate the fact that Uncle Sam lent me some money to go to school and I am forever thankful.

First the health care industry. Now with the changes being made to federal student loans, lots more young Americans are going to be carrying financial debt with the US of A as the lender. Awesome decision given the crapper the banking industry is already in. And it further expands big government. Blech.

I'm all for education, but our banks are hurting too much right now for another multi-billion dollar blow.

New rules streamline student loans, eliminate some pitfalls - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/columnist/block/2010-03-30-yourmoney30_ST_N.htm)

You don't think it's a good thing that the banks, who have been and are still making money hand over fist, are essentially cut out as the middle man? This sounds like an all around win. If the bank lobbyists hate it, then it must be good. It appears to be a win for the students and a win for cutting the deficit in the long run. These loans were subsidized and 100% backed by the government anyway. Now the government can actually save a huge sum of money and charge reasonable rates.

You don't think it's a good thing that the banks, who have been and are still making money hand over fist, are essentially cut out as the middle man? This sounds like an all around win. If the bank lobbyists hate it, then it must be good. It appears to be a win for the students and a win for cutting the deficit in he long run. These loans were subsidized and 100% backed by the government anyway. Now the government can actually save a huge sum of money and charge reasonable rates.

It's a government takeover of, I have no idea of what seeing how they have always been involved, but if the government is involved it's a government takeover.

I totally get what you and 12th are saying. I have NO issue whatsoever with the federal gov't lending money to students. In fact I think it's great. Just as far as the United States banking industry is concerned, I don't think we should kick it when it's already down.

I totally get what you and 12th are saying. I have NO issue whatsoever with the federal gov't lending money to students. In fact I think it's great. Just as far as the United States banking industry is concerned, I don't think we should kick it when it's already down.

I can live with that.

The feds lending them money is fine and we did that through TARP. The feds lending them money to lend to students is not fine. It is total horse shit to give them money at fed rate and then having them lend it to just students at 2%.