Obama Care

Our draft just got finished.
Yes it did , next up ..... to finish the giants/eagles and cowturds !!!

In terms of immediate loss of U.S. life the Iraq War decision is certainly worse. However how many lives did we save in the process, be they U.S., Iraqi, or possibly other nations that could've been a victim of terrorism sponsored or funded by Saddam or people murdered directly by Saddam and his regime. The Kurds are certainly glad we overthrew Saddam.

In terms of money, this health care bill is likely to be far worse than expenditures on the Iraq War in overall burden to the National Debt.

I agree with you that the country is certainly not going into a revolution or the world stop spinning on it's axis because of this law. However, with this new law we will see a further erosion in personal freedoms/personal choice, further intrusion into the private secor by the federal government, further expansion of the federal government's power over the states, increased taxes and an increase in the National Debt. Providing health coverage for the uninsured, working through the pre-existing conditions issues, and allowing more competition for health coverage could've been done in a different way.

Would you agree that Barack Obama won the presidency chiefly because of voter discontent over the war? There were a number of factors that led to his victory, no doubt. But in my mind, at the top of the list was Iraq. Polls were running heavily against the war by the 2008 election -- and the Republican response? Nominate a man who suggested we might be there "a hundred" more years.

As defiant as conservatives accuse the democrats of being with regard to health care, the GOP was just as defiant in the face of public opinion about the war in Iraq.

Assuming everything comes up roses in Iraq -- and that's an awfully big "if" -- would it be worth it if the price we had to pay was a Marxist in the White House who paved the way for nationalized health care?

Remember people, according to Democrats like Representative Dingle, it's all about "control."

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Would you agree that Barack Obama won the presidency chiefly because of voter discontent over the war? There were a number of factors that led to his victory, no doubt. But in my mind, at the top of the list was Iraq. Polls were running heavily against the war by the 2008 election -- and the Republican response? Nominate a man who suggested we might be there "a hundred" more years.

As defiant as conservatives accuse the democrats of being with regard to health care, the GOP was just as defiant in the face of public opinion about the war in Iraq.

Assuming everything comes up roses in Iraq -- and that's an awfully big "if" -- would it be worth it if the price we had to pay was a Marxist in the White House who paved the way for nationalized health care?
Where is it written in our Constitution that " we " can not buy health Insurance ? Do any of our states prohibit individuals from buying health ins. ? Most , if not all of the people on this site have stated that they were for reform , just would have liked a smaller , more direct bill . I think much of the concern is that the HC Bill could lead to higher debt , like we have in SS & MC . I think all of us want our elected to make good sound policy on everything from education , health , transportation , safe water , food ect. Hope this HC bill helps everyone that NEEDS help , not reward many who care nothing about / self/counrty ect. Nothing is for free and sometimes , we get what we pay for .

We should have just copied France. Hands down the best healthcare in the world. People love to point to Canada for socialized medicine. But in a poll about healthcare, a majority of the top 30 countries (which the US was not a part of ranked 37th) have 'socialist' healthcare. Sorry folks, reform needed, and still needs, to happen. We need to be smarter about hospitals. Stop having every hospital getting each and every new gadget. You may have to travel a bit more to get the exact care, but the cost savings will be worth it if hospitals regionalise.

Here's a great article about the new bill, that highlights both the positive and negative. One thing to keep in mind, preventative care is much cheaper than waiting for someone to need hospitalization. I have a feeling that we'll see a lot more of that with this bill.

Health Care Reform: Tax Hikes on the Way - Kiplinger (http://kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/health-care-reform-tax-hikes-on-the-way.html)

They did? What in particular?

war

tax cuts during increased spending

etc

Our health care system is fine. It's why people come here for it. Now how much it costs and how insurance works...that's f'd up. I wish it was called what it really is. Health insurance reform.

Hell in that case we should reform all of our policies to only the strongest (economically) survive. Wave sayonara to the American Dream along with it.

Reagan would be proud.

Hell even the great Bill Clinton backed the Iraq war.

when you have false intelligence reports a lot is possible

As JoeRedskin said. This thing will best be judged 10 years from now. Imagine, we will have had 3+ more superbowl rings for the Skins by and the US will be fiscally sound by then. It's easy if you try.

It's easy if you try.
The problem with the people not liking this is

"Imagine there's no Heaven"

since the baby jesus declared america the best country we must do all to appease him!