Terell Suggs vs Brian Orakpo

Suggs is a very good player, and we can only hope Orapko at least reaches his level if not surpass it.

Again, I'll reiterate that this isn't a "where are Orakpo's skills best" kind of thing. This is just a play now/play later deal.

Maybe one day, Orakpo could be the type of player Suggs is. We can dream. But in 2003, 263 was small for a Rush DE. Now, it's about average. Suggs also got taken in the top-10, so he didn't exactly fall through the NFL Draft floor.

4-3 and 3-4 makes a big difference. I still hate using Orakpo at SLB. Toss him in next to AH and let him focus on DE.


Now you are comparing apples with apples!!! It is tough to compare players in different systems. Even more tough when you have never seen Orakpo Standing!

I hope he works out!

Obviously Orakpo doesn't have any NFL stats, but it seems as the team is going to toy with his athleticism as BAL 'did'. They are listed at the same height and weight, 6'3'' 260lbs. Bottom line, if T-Sizzle can be productive as a stand up OLB (3-4) and a hand in the dirt 4-3 DE, why can't Orakpo? I hope Orakpo isn't listening to all the doubters and using Suggs' success as motivation.

T-Sizzle? :doh:

T-Sizzle? :doh:

Do you prefer O-Sizzle or O-mazing?

Suggs is a thug, he can stay in Baltimore for all I care.

What has he done to be considered a thug? I am interested to know..

I could be completely wrong, but I think he's a bit of a dirty player. I've seen a couple of games where he's been flagged for personal fouls, taking some cheap shots at QBs. I know B'more and Pittsburgh hate each other, but I remember one game he got flagged for taking a cheap shot at Big Ben. I looked up to see if I can find stats for most personal fouls, this is the best I could find (but it is from 2 yrs ago)

Flag these guys down when there's a penalty on the play - NFL - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3102510)

Unfortunately I couldn't find anything more recent regarding personal fouls, but it wouldn't surprised me if he was up there. I know the guy is a beast of a player, but he rubs me the wrong way.

So since he rubs you the wrong way and he is vicious on the ball field and takes cheap shop he's a thug. Dude are you serious?.....

Do you know what a thug is?...I can direct you to some..lol

So since he rubs you the wrong way and he is vicious on the ball field and takes cheap shop he's a thug. Dude are you serious?.....

Do you know what a thug is?...I can direct you to some..lol

What is wrong with me having the opinion of not liking a player who tends to get a his fair share of personal fouls? I never said anything about Suggs ability to play, just his attitude and his personal fouls. He could have changed now, but I've seen in some Ravens boards that discipline was an issue with him in his first couple of years in the league.

Sheesh, I hear people here call Redskins players worst things, and I call Terrell Suggs a thug (which once again, my opinion, I'm just some yahoo on a soapbox in the internet) and people get all worked up over it?

When I think of thug, I think more of someone's off-field behavior. As far as I know, Suggs isn't a problem off the field. He's aggressive on the field, but to me that's not a thug.

When I think of thug, I think more of someone's off-field behavior. As far as I know, Suggs isn't a problem off the field. He's aggressive on the field, but to me that's not a thug.

That makes sense. Alright, maybe I should say he is overly aggressive on the field and this has led to a number of personal fouls. Or maybe that he's a dirty player (although it seems that Rodney Harrison has that title according to some ESPN articles last year).

I am still curious to see where he'd rank in regards to personal fouls (and actually Rodney Harrison for that matter), so if anyone finds it, let me know.