Terell Suggs vs Brian Orakpo

Well there can't be much said IMO regarding the thread title since Rak hasn't played a snap yet. Very curious about his development. I don't think the experiment @ SLB will last long...that said i hope it doesn't go badly just that Rak puts on size quickly enough he grows out of the position and into a lockstock DE (oh and Blache has to make the adjustment too).

Doesn't seem like we're gonna add any more talent at LB :( (would have really liked to see Marcus back again). Fincher was like a mini-Marcus in pre-season last year, if fact the kid always plays w/ a super high motor. I mean there were pre-season games where he seemed to lead the defense. If he continues to impress I would hope Blache gives Fincher a shot in the regular season. For one thing he plays w/ a real mean streak...something we could use.

Next year, if/when suggs becomes an FA, would you get him and cut Andre carter, or flip him and orakpo around between LB and DE or move suggs to SLB and orakpo to DE? Just curious...

The Ravens already let Bart Scott get away. No way in hell Terrell Suggs gets out of Baltimore. Ozzie Newsome is too good of a GM to ever let that happen. I'm not even gonna entertain your scenario unless Suggs hits the market next year. Which isn't going to happen. He's a top tier defensive player in the league right now. There's a reason they didn't bat an eye when Adalius Thomas bolted for NE.

Suggs is a thug, he can stay in Baltimore for all I care.

Suggs is a thug, he can stay in Baltimore for all I care.

How so?

If Orakp ends up at the right end next to Albert then who plays the left end on passing downs? Carter or Wilson, jackson. Also, Tennessee used Albert at d-end on passing situations so do we put Orakp at the right tackle position. With Albert at right end he will definitely get a push from the outside which cold benefit our blitzes from the other side.

How so?

I could be completely wrong, but I think he's a bit of a dirty player. I've seen a couple of games where he's been flagged for personal fouls, taking some cheap shots at QBs. I know B'more and Pittsburgh hate each other, but I remember one game he got flagged for taking a cheap shot at Big Ben. I looked up to see if I can find stats for most personal fouls, this is the best I could find (but it is from 2 yrs ago)

Flag these guys down when there's a penalty on the play - NFL - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3102510)

Unfortunately I couldn't find anything more recent regarding personal fouls, but it wouldn't surprised me if he was up there. I know the guy is a beast of a player, but he rubs me the wrong way.

If Orakp ends up at the right end next to Albert then who plays the left end on passing downs? Carter or Wilson, jackson. Also, Tennessee used Albert at d-end on passing situations so do we put Orakp at the right tackle position. With Albert at right end he will definitely get a push from the outside which cold benefit our blitzes from the other side.

There are so many options right now. More than we've had in many years. I read where one "expert" said, "If Haynesworth decided to change positions and play DE the rest of his career, he would automatically be the best DE in the NFL." I would love to see some downs with Orakpo at RDE and AH at LDE.

4.61 vs Orakpo's 4.7 on a bad hammy

SI.com - 2003 NFL Draft - Terrell Suggs (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/players/4958.html)

That wasn't his actual 40 time that was what they thought he would run.
Its well documented that Suggs ran a 'slow' 40.

That same year, the AP Defensive Rookie of the Year, Terrell Suggs, didn’t run fast for scouts, either. At Arizona State in the fall of 2002, Suggs collected an NCAA-record 24 sacks. But at 6-3, 262 pounds, Suggs was considered too small to be a three-down defensive end. And because he ran a disappointing 4.8 in the 40-yard dash during a private workout that March, Suggs was considered too slow to drop back in coverage as an outside linebacker in the 4-3. Suggs was a “tweaner,” a guy who didn’t belong at any particular position; at least that’s how his measurable qualities sized him up.
Draft Stock - How important are 40 times? (http://www.draftstock.com/site_main/content/view/185/26/)

Although i would rather see Orakpo start at RDE, i think that he could be good at SAM in fact i think he could be very good.

I don't think Blache intends to use 'Rak like a typical 4-3 SAM/OLB.
Towards then end of the season Blache began playing JT at SAM and put him close to the line of scimmage and the plan was to move him to SAM fulltime in 2009, now i think that Orakpo will fill that role.
Also Blache had success w/ Rosevelt Colvin at OLB w/2 10 sacks seasons.

:food-smil

Suggs is a thug, he can stay in Baltimore for all I care.

Lol, come on Ruh. You say that like we're in Washington State.

yea, I thought I read that Suggs ran a 4.8 40 but I can't find the link now.